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First off, thanks to everyone who sent me private messages and helped me out with my Maryland fishing trip. It was greatly appreciated. I am leaving in less than 24 hours, so as it was, I was up a little early this morning with anticipation. The main river we are fishing has a fly fishing only section as well as an artificial only section. I am planning on mostly fly fishing on this trip, but I also want to throw some spinners around where permitted. I have been making up a few spinners for the trip:

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When reading over the description on Maryland's DCNR, I realized I didn't remember reading about barbless hooks. I usually fish with barbless regardless, so it's not an issue, I just wanted to be sure. So as I was up early I read it again and sure enough no mention of it, but it did say to check the fishing regulations page for the full set of regulations, so I did. That's when I found out that, although it makes no mention of barbless...it does say TREBLE HOOKS are prohibited. All 200+ of my spinners have trebles....

So this morning I used my size 8 mustad nymph hooks to start making a few single hook spinners. Not sure how the will work, but when in Rome.... I know some guys make them with single hooks, I am just hoping the nymph hooks I have work. They seem to ride up the loop a bit. Fingers crossed!

Spinners for trip by Jason Weller, on Flickr

Hopefully they are hitting the beetles at least!

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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 07-11-2017, 09:21 AM
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Totally counterproductive rule established by the uneducated. All they do with that rule is promote the death of substantially more trout. Anyone with half a logical sense of reason could understand that a size 10 treble is far less likely to be swallowed than a size 10 single hook. I know this isn't the point of your post but stupid regulations established by noon thinking people drive me nuts.
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Single barbless replacement hooks

Too late for this trip, but there are single barbless hooks that are made as replacements for plugs and spoons. The hooks have much larger eyes than your nymph hooks, and they are not bent down eyes, so they will not ride up.

The ones I have seen are Japanese (C'ultiva, made by Owner), and Japanese anglers rarely use spinners, so I don't know if you would want to use the plug hooks (vertical eye) or the spoon hooks (horizontal eye) - probably doesn't matter.
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I'm going to run to the local tackle shop and see what they have here in a few minutes. I won't arrive at that stream until Friday morning, so I can take my materials with me and make some by campfire if needed. Thanks!!!

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Totally counterproductive rule established by the uneducated. All they do with that rule is promote the death of substantially more trout. Anyone with half a logical sense of reason could understand that a size 10 treble is far less likely to be swallowed than a size 10 single hook. I know this isn't the point of your post but stupid regulations established by noon thinking people drive me nuts.
I often remove the third hook from my trebles but agree that single barbless is a stupid rule. I'm glad we don't have it in PA.
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I agree totally with what Trout 2003 said. Single hooks on spinners is a misguided regulation. You will kill more trout with single hooks than with trebles. Within the last year on that infamous fly fishing site in Pennsylvania, Mike Kaufman, SE area fisheries biologist for the PFBC, stated on that site that single hooks are worst than trebles on spinners.

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That's really kind of a bummer. On the surface I would say single hooks would be better, but I can see the flip side now. I ran out and got some straight shank hooks and put together 2 dozen spinners quick and they seem to "hang on" better, I guess we will see. Not having many spinners will just give me an excuse to explore more of the C&R brook trout water with the fly rod I guess.

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Best of luck Grouse!
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When I was down there, I just clipped two of the hooks off of my treble hooks with needle nose pliers. Not the best, but it left me fish.
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Contrary to what many believe, you will be fine with single hooks on your spinners. I have fished a section of private water for the last 4 years where only single barbless are permitted, and have caught close to 1000 trout on that stretch without a single fish swallowing the hook.
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