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Spinner Creation - do you include a barrell swivel

Hi all...I have a question for the spinner builders out there. When you're making your spinners, do any of you slide on a small barrel swivel? I've always used snap swivels but that is obviously a whole bunch of extra 'junk' when trout are being shy. If you have the barrel swivel you would just tie to that and it should still do the same thing to help prevent twist...the only thing you're losing is the ability to change lures quickly. If you have done this..any success or failure?
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Re: Spinner Creation - do you include a barrell swivel

I don't use swivels of any type because they definitely deaden "feel," making it hard to detect strikes. When I get line twist I just put on a different spinner.

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pt1e. I haven't done so yet but I fully intend to try to use the best quality barrel swivil that I can purchase this season....at least for a little bit. I am sick and tired of dealing with line twist outing after out. Luckily I never get 'birds nests' because the stradics line management system is so effective at dealing with line twist. But it's still annoying. I've read for year what Frank says and trust him but I wanna see what he's talking about with 'deadening' the feel. I just want to be sure that I'm not missing a chance at eliminating line twist and taking that right out of the equation. To be honest, Im skeptical that it will even reduce the line twist. We'll see I suppose.
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Re: Spinner Creation - do you include a barrell swivel

I too thought about trying barrel swivels this year, but was afraid of the deadening feel...I tried a snap swivel and could definitely tell a difference and I didn't like it at all. Took it off after about 20 casts. But I agree with Trout...line twists stink!!

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Its worth a shot.......what may feel dead to one person may feel great to another. Never know till you try. Again, I'm skeptical that even a swivel would help with line twist. I've racked my brain for years over it. How to build a spinner with a counter turn to combat the way the spinner wants to twist. Some spinners don't spin at all while others are horrible. I can't narrow it down though.
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Re: Spinner Creation - do you include a barrell swivel

A few years ago I tried using barrel swivels for 3-4 outings.

My setup was as follows: line - barrel swivel - 12" leader - spinner

Although it helped the line from twisting quite a bit (far from perfect) and had no impact on how the spinners ran in the water, I found that I was picking up a ton of crud on the line from adding 2 extra knots. No matter how much I trimmed the tag end, I was still picking up junk. That's why I gave up on that idea.

If I read the OP's post correctly, he is suggesting adding the barrel swivel directly to the spinner (during the build I assume). I like that idea. No extra knots and should serve the same purpose with line twist. I may have to tinker around in the basement tonight.
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Ya that's what I was talking about. Build the swivel right into the spinners top eye
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I'll let you know if they work. Hopefully over the weekend??

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well..you made EXACTLY what I was talking about..I haven't had a chance to make any and try some...youll beat me to it if you get out this weekend. I see that type of spinner a lot...like a swiss swing on steroids....how good do they work for you?
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Re: Spinner Creation - do you include a barrell swivel

I fished for an hour this morning on a local stocker stream to try out the spinner with a barrel swivel. I'd have to say overall that it is a winner when it comes to line twist but it brings it's own caveats.

After an hour of fishing and catching / releasing 17, I can honestly say that I had no line twist. Another thing I noticed is that I had no nicking of the string near the spinner. I believe the no nicking is due to how the spinner reacts when it hits an obstruction while gliding through the water.

The bad is that when the spinner hits an obstruction it is not a smooth bump, it's like a car making a 2 lane switch going at high speed and then fish tailing to get back into control taking longer for the spinner to recover and spin again. I'd also say that it takes longer to get the spinner spinning when it hits the water. In both instances, when I say longer, it is a split of a second but when you are used to a certain response, that split second can make the difference in hooking or missing, especially when the spinner first hits the water, that is such a crucial time.

I could see myself keeping a few of these in my spinner box to correct line twist down the road. Maybe if I am on a long outing and start having issues I can throw one of these on for a while and it could help relieve twist already present but I cannot see me using these daily due to the delay in spinning action.

I do however recommend trying this yourself and seeing if it works for you. My style vs. yours may be way different and the results could be acceptable to you.
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