Just read where the pigeon shoot ban bill will not make it through the process this year. The antis will be gearing up to get it reintroduced next year. Remain vigilant.
Sure. "Canned hunts" are passed off as hunting, but most only have a problem when the "can" is too small, like say, 30 acres and the "prey" is released from a pen to be "hunted".For someone who is against "canned hunts" this guy has no problem with a box of birds being left out with shooters at the ready.
Can you tell me what the difference is.
SPOT on !!!DennyF said:Sure. "Canned hunts" are passed off as hunting, but most only have a problem when the "can" is too small, like say, 30 acres and the "prey" is released from a pen to be "hunted".For someone who is against "canned hunts" this guy has no problem with a box of birds being left out with shooters at the ready.
Can you tell me what the difference is.
And not so much of a problem, if the "can" happens to be a high fence preserve of maybe hundreds of acres, with free-roaming critters. Not everyone is on the same page, when it comes to "pay to hunt" operations. Just like we're not all on the same page when it comes to additional Sunday hunting; Killing does; Mentored Youth Hunting; xbows inclusion; inlines after Christmas, etc.
Live bird shoots are just that: People shoot live birds released for the purpose of being shot.
The only connection with hunting, is that those working to abolish live bird shoots via legislation, also want all sport hunting/trapping abolished, as well.
Many hunters comprehend that connection, therefore they oppose the abolition of live bird shoots, because they realize that banning live bird shoots amounts to giving HSUS their initial victory in PA. Their stated goal, is the end of all sport hunting, so why serve their interests by supporting them on live bird shoots?
Hope that helped a bit?
Yep. That would be the next target if this bills moves.hunter4095 said:if you think this pigeon in a box shooting is their only target your crazy. they also dont like you going to a pheasent and chukar shooting presereve and letting birds out of a crate to shoot. witch will fall under the same ban as these pigeons.
Your fear is misplaced John. We went through this before in my thread on this bill. The biggest problem we face in PA is not anti hunters, but ourselves. We align the hunting tradition with a non hunting "sport", we fail to get support for tougher trespass law, we don't yet have in place a constitutional amendment for right to hunt, we lose hunters at the hands of environmental management, we push unpopular legislation further dividing hunters, we anger private landowners further diminishing huntable land....etc etc...John S said:Sadly, they are eroding the ground, high or not, out from under their own feet and don't realize it in the zeal claim that high ground.