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Old 10-16-2019, 05:05 PM
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Sunbury area? Yep, they're right on top of current thinking and such things. Used to spend lots of time up there, Hasn't changed a bit since the 1960s.



https://huntersforsundayhunting.blog...polls-say.html

Lehigh Valley area: 60% for, 38% against
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/opi...s-hunting.html

Looks like some areas still oppose it, according to polls from Lancaster and Clarion counties?

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Old 10-18-2019, 12:21 AM
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Some of the reason that youth isn't getting involved is due to the negativity and cost to get started. Plus we have no real control over our childrens way of thinking since our educational systems brainwash them to aquire the way of thinking they want them to have.
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In the year 2000, PA had 12.0 million residents, and in 2018 it had 12.8 million. A 6-7% population increase. Pick a random state, I picked SC as one of my daughters now works there, they went from 4 million residents in 2000 to over 5 million in 2018, more than a 20% population increase.


So while the total number of belly buttons in PA went up slightly, it did not keep pace with the USA, which saw roughly 15% population increase since 2000.


So overall the headcount of people in PA has not kept pace. Younger people are leaving the region for other regions with more job opportunities. As the population does not keep up with the world, and the demographics of society changes, it does not take a government funded study to guess that the number of hunting licenses sold declines.


And my personal experiences don't point to it being some kind of anti-hunting or liberal agenda to wipe out hunting. All the people I know socially or at work that do not hunt do not have any issues with me doing it. In fact a lot of people look forward to some of us getting a few deer so they can have some jerky.


Bottom line is that in order to become proficient at hunting, gain enough skills, takes a lot of time. In today's world, people in general and the young in particular are always pressed for time. This goes hand in hand with people up in arms about the Saturday opener, how it will kill traditions. Hunting is no longer the entire gang going to deer camp on Friday and staying five or six days. Hunting is now more of a weekend, recreational activity for a large portion of hunters due to the time constraints of modern society.


So you need to make hunting more attractive for the Millenials and Gen X crowd. Allow high-tech crossbows. Have Sunday hunting (you can drink and gamble on Sundays). My gosh, get your heads out of the 1800s and allow the AR platform (properly limited in magazine capacity like all other actions) for big game hunting. And the irony is, the people who fight these things the most are the self-proclaimed hard-core hunting traditionalists. But yet I will wager anyone the beverage of their choice that most of these people clinging to the laws and regulations of the 1980s all drive fuel-injected vehicles and have cable TV. So much for their "tradition" of engines with carburetors or TV antennas on their homes.



Eventually it will bottom out and then there will be an uptick in sales. That will happen over the next 10-15 years as more of the Old Guard passes on to the Great Gamelands in the Sky, and we get more open, progressive minds involved in the policy making.

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Old 11-25-2019, 02:25 PM
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So you need to make hunting more attractive for the Millenials and Gen X crowd. Allow high-tech crossbows. Have Sunday hunting (you can drink and gamble on Sundays). My gosh, get your heads out of the 1800s and allow the AR platform (properly limited in magazine capacity like all other actions) for big game hunting. And the irony is, the people who fight these things the most are the self-proclaimed hard-core hunting traditionalists. But yet I will wager anyone the beverage of their choice that most of these people clinging to the laws and regulations of the 1980s all drive fuel-injected vehicles and have cable TV. So much for their "tradition" of engines with carburetors or TV antennas on their homes.


Yeah........How's that working out? It's been 10 years since we allowed x-bows in general archery. We sell 100K license less than we did in 2009. The milennials and GenX'ers. They were in their late teens to late thirties. They are now late twenties and GenX'rs are pushing 50. There ain't no uptick.

Parents today enroll their kids in every activity under the sun. Hunting isn't THE thing to do, it' something to squeeze in between youth travel soccer, basketball, swim lessons, travel baseball, ad infinitum. Funny, boomers had no problem finding time OR resources to pursue hunting. But the entitlement crowd wants it laid out for them, like everything else.

My son is 19. He learned that if he wanted to play baseball and soccer there were going to be certain sacrifices. He didn't demand someone else accommodate HIS schedule. He knew baseball would eat into turkey hunting and trout fishing. Soccer would take up some of archery season.

Your analogy of fuel injection vs carburetors is flawed. Fuel injection wasn't developed to add more drivers to the road. It was developed as a more efficient method of delivering fuel to an engine.

BTW, I am in full favor of Sunday hunting and AR platforms. The problem with the Sunday hunting, is , it's driven by the "we're too busy crowd". See above. How in the h#ll did we ever find time to hunt 20, 30, 40 years ago. When standard vacation was one maybe two weeks.

Sunday hunting because the PGC should determine hunting seasons based on best resource management practice? I'm all in. Sunday hunting because you're too darn busy? Sorry. Your hectic schedule is just that. Yours. Make concessions.

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Parents today sign their kid up for everything under the sun because if you let your kid wander the woods unsupervised like we did as youngsters they get arrested for child endangerment. It's unfortunate but that is where society is.

Therefore, parents sign the kid up for regulated and organized activities. These most often utilize Saturdays and not Sundays. Are there exceptions? Yes, but as a general rule the organized activities whether they be through school or outside of school utilize Saturdays.

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