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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 01-04-2010, 07:46 PM Thread Starter
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Flint life

Ok still a newbie here. Had my gun to Dixons several times ( 50 cal T/C Hawken) and he insists the frizzen is ok. However my flint life is pretty short, they last about 5 shots until they basically begin flaking apart and they stop sparking. These are the good ones from Dixons too. How long should a flint last?

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Re: Flint life

What are "the good ones"?

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Re: Flint life

my guess is that you have an old style lock on that TC which had a poor hammer angle...

if thats the case, call TC and tell them its eating flints and sparking poorly and your frizzen is good and send it in with a note saying the same....they will update it and send it back free of charge...

i gotta send mine when i am done hunting with it for the season....

doesnt matter what flint you use with that bad hammer angle, its going to eat through the flints in a hurry...
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Re: Flint life

5 shots is not nearly enough. That would drive me crazy.

FWIW, I buy and use English Knapped Flints in my T\C flinter. I haven't counted....but I'm going to say I get about 30 to 50 shots before I have to Knapp the flint and get further life out of it.

In addition....being a flinter for some time, I've purchased about 5 additional frizzens for my T\C. The T\C frizzens are not heat treated all the way through, so when the thin outer skin is worn off, they will quit sparking. Then I will replace it with a new one.

So...when I have 2 or 3 "bad" frizzens, I will send them to T\C with a note telling them they are bad, and they replace them for free.

But, I've had my best luck with these English Knapped Flints.

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Re: Flint life

Old style on top.
New on bottom.
Note the difference above the hammer screw.


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Re: Flint life

With a proper lock and flint, they can last to 100 shots. I personally have gotten more than that with a well tuned lock on a smooth bore trade gun.

Flints breaking can be caused by poor lock geometry, improper placement of the flint or even by case hardened frizzens that are starting to wear through the hard layer. TC makes what is generally a first rate gun, except for their flint locks. the quality of the frizzen steel should be better, so they don't need to be case hardened.

A quality lock, like an L&R can be fired hundreds of times without showing grooves and marks on the frizzen face.

Optimum flint locks have a special angle to hold the flint as well as an arc that maximizes striking the arc of the frizzen face to throw lots of sparks.

I prefer the dark gray English flints. But I pick them out myself. Hold them up to the light and inspect for cracks. Make sure they are a uniform translucent color with no muddy areas. I can pick though five or ten flints for every one I choose. It makes a difference in the life of the flint. Don't just buy something on a blister card at Walmart and expect long life.
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Re: Flint life

410-er. Great pic.....And there is a big difference in the angle of the strike.

But even if your using the "old style" (I have 2 T\C's...one with the old style and one with the new) your flint should last much longer than 5 shots.

If you look at 410-er's pic, that top one seem's to have an English Knapped flint in it. Tougher to tell with the bottom one...but it appears to be English Knapped as well.

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Re: Flint life

French Amber top and Black English bottom.

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Re: Flint life

Really hard to tell any difference, I even held the gun up to the computer screen. Old and new look exactly the same

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Re: Flint life

Talon.....

If you look at the screw (as 410-er has said)(The big screw that screws the lock into the plate)....now....move your eye directly up and you will see on the "olds" style...it has this kind of "hook" in it. Whereas the "new" style does not.

When you take the two off and hold them side by side you can see where the new is just a tad higher and the angle is a bit different.

Again...410-er has hit the flint....on the frizzen!!

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