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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 08-28-2019, 07:03 PM Thread Starter
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New 50 Caliber Flintlock

Having a new 50 cal muzzleloader build patterned after the Isaac Haines version. I plan on using it for hunting deer. I'm torn between a 38 or 42 inch barrel. The Haines rifles had 38 inch barrels.
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 08-28-2019, 07:23 PM
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If it were me, I would go with a '"B" profile swamped in a 38", .50 cal. 3.7 pounds, sounds like a nice carrying gun.

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Yep. My Leman that I built last year has a 38" on it.....and that's plenty long enough. Balances very well and shoots very accurately. OTOH, mine is a .58 cal octagon ....not swamped. The bigger bore lightens up the barrel a bit vs a 50 cal.
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Hey! Great choice on a flinter! I like em a bunch.

As for barrel length, longer is for the most part better, I admit that. My personal flinters are shorter, for reason of being lighter to carry and hold steady for the shot. Muzzle heavy is desirable, but only to a point.

Should you elect for a shorter length barrel as I have? I looked at your profile, and you are a little younger than I am, but I don't have a clue if your physical abilities are as poor as mine. That could be a consideration in deciding on barrel length. Yes Sir, I am trying to influence your decision on the build, but only to bring another dynamic into that decision in the hope of helping out a little.

Congradulations on the flintlock choice! Good luck!
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post #5 of 9 (permalink) Old 08-29-2019, 09:02 AM
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Longer barrel equals longer sight plane as well
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Anybody can shoot deer on the farm ground....You earn it in the mountains.......
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My 54 cal Pa Mountain Rifle flinter has a 38″ Colerain Barrel and it seems just right for me as far as weight, balance, good sight plane plus fits all my carrying hunting situations.

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post #7 of 9 (permalink) Old 08-29-2019, 04:04 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for comments. I went with the 38 inch barrel for a couple of reasons. The Haines rifles were 38" for the most part and I'm not a spring chicken anymore. I'll post a picture when it's done.
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Unless travel/baggage length restrictions are a consideration, I personally prefer a longer barrel and sight radius on a traditional BP gun.
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post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old 09-09-2019, 12:43 PM
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I agree with Loggy...... if you are going with a 38" swamped barrel for deer hunting with roundballs, do yourself a favor now and skip the .50 and get yourself a C weight Colerain in .54. Maybe it's just me but I don't like a .50 roundball all.
That particular Colerain 38" .54 has great balance, more punch, in a probably 8lb finished rifle.
I personally gravitate toward longer rifle barrels......but have experience with that 38" .54, and one of my hunting buddy's has that same barrel and in an Isaac Haines modeled gun to boot. He has had terrific success with it and you couldn't pry that rifle out of his hands.

My personal hunting rifles right now have 44" and 47 1/4" barrels. Don't fear length with a properly chosen swamped profile and caliber.
Do a little homework on barrel lengths, profiles, weight and how they relate to a finished rifle weight and balance. Longer doesn't always mean heavier or nose heavy.

Oh and I don't know who told you that "The Haines rifles were 38".....? True to a point in that one very famous rifle of his that you see in all the books is a 38" barrel (that one a .60 cal), but of the 3 others that I can find in a couple of my reference books here on my desk I see a 44"/.56 cal, a 47"/ .57 cal, and a 45"/ .50
So truly......go with a length and caliber that you prefer, not because of a notion that a majority of a builders guns were a particular length. Not true.

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