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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-31-2018, 09:39 AM Thread Starter
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Turning a tree into a stock... Questions

So, last summer we realized that the ash borers were 100% invading our property as we noticed all the ash were dead or dying. Over the course of last summer we started marking them all so that this winter we could tell which ones needed to come down(when everything looks dead). While marking we found one tree that was a really nice specimen. I spent last fall trying to come up with something to make out of it as a memento of sorts. Then I thought about making a stock blank. Since it's my dad's property and he's only ever had a TC Hawkin, I'm thinking I might make him an honest to God longrifle. And hey maybe one or two for me if I can get enough material.


Fast forward to a couple weekends ago, we went out to cut it down and skid out while the ground was still firm. We got it out and now I've been looking at it sitting there and can't make up my mind if I can get stock material out of it.


The log is about 24-26" in diameter, and may have some curl to it... Won't know on that until I get it sawn, but the rings have some waviness to them. My problem is I know I need to keep the grain fairly straight, basically flatsawing it, because it's ash. I'm just not a lumberman. So what is everyone's opinion, is this log large enough to get a stock out of and what dimensions should I be shooting for in a board for a stock?


Oh, and right now I have it cut off at about 7-8', so I should have plenty of length.

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I don't know anything about cutting a blank other than recalling Dixon's book mentioning it takes years to dry before you do.
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This sounds like a fantastic project! You should be able to get several stocks out of it. I love working with ash. I make furniture, but have been toying with the idea of building a flintlock but haven't chosen the species of wood yet. The sawyer you hire could probably help you get the straightest grain. (The best way to ensure the absolute straightest grain (but also a tremendous amount of work ) is to split it down it's length with wedges and a sledgehammer.)

Ash can have a distinct color difference between the heartwood and the sapwood or even between the spring/fall growth rings. Some people like it, some people don't. You may consider having it cut down the middle first just to see what you are dealing with. That also may help get straighter grain boards as well.

Since the standing tree was dead, it may not need as much time to dry. My initial thought is to saw it into roughly 3" x 8" boards. That way if you have plenty to work with after any shrinkage, twisting or checking in the boards. Since the fore end will be thinner than the butt end, you may be able to get several stocks from the same board if you arrange it carefully.

Just some initial thoughts... Good luck and I'm sure it will turn out great!
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Ever watch the PBS show "Alone in the Wilderness". Dick Proenneke build an entire cabin out of logs much less than 26" diameter.....I think you should be able to produce a stock blank from the trunk you have. Flat cut it about 6 inches thick, then let if dry for a couple years and after shrinkage you should still have plenty of material to work with.
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not real handy with wood working ,but I like watch shows about it ,and hearing about . keep us updated on your project
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I think there is plenty of diameter in those logs. The question will be are there any voids or hidden problems inside them and you won't know that until they are cut into billets. I would do several just in case.

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Ever watch the PBS show "Alone in the Wilderness". Dick Proenneke build an entire cabin out of logs much less than 26" diameter.....I think you should be able to produce a stock blank from the trunk you have. Flat cut it about 6 inches thick, then let if dry for a couple years and after shrinkage you should still have plenty of material to work with.
The door hinges he fashioned out of wood were incredible !
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The door hinges he fashioned out of wood were incredible !
Yep. The man was a genius. To think of what he did alone, and at age 51. I have both part one and part two on DVD, and I've watched him a 100 times and I'm amazed each and every time I watch him. You have to give somebody credit to leave everything and go build a life in the wilderness from scratch.
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Sorry it's been a while, but commitments and weather have prevented me from getting over to cut wood. I figured I would post pics of the logs in question. I took a tape with me yesterday, the lower drunk is 22" at the narrow end, the upper trunk is 20". I wanted to keep it as one log, but the tractor couldn't pull it. The lower log is 6' and the upper is 7' long. I'll have to figure a way to get these on the trailer and over to a mill.
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Maybe find a portable sawmill in the area....


Might find some other wood to have done just to make it "worthwhile"...depends how they charge...but might be better than hauling it. Especially if you can snag some other nice logs to have cut into boards for other projects.

I was shocked at how cheap it was when my buddy had a bunch of white pine done. I think it was a couple hundred bucks and he was there half a day or so. Ended up with a pile of boards...
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