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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-03-2011, 04:29 PM Thread Starter
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Kasinite

I am NOT trying to say I believe this, but here's what my dealer told me: Kasinite is NOT legal for the flint season??? Anyone hear that or is my dealer falling off the deep end?

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post #2 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-03-2011, 04:35 PM
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Re: Kasinite

He needs his gyroscopic stabilizer checked.

Who would put Kasinite in a barrel anyway?
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post #3 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-03-2011, 04:43 PM
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Re: Kasinite

On the frizzen zimm, not the barrel.
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post #4 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-03-2011, 04:50 PM
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Re: Kasinite

Title 58, Chapter 141 of PA Code
Section 141.43, b

" (b) Flintlock muzzleloading deer season.

(1) Permitted devices. It is lawful to hunt deer during the flintlock muzzleloading deer season with a flintlock muzzleloading firearm. The firearm must be an original or similar reproduction of muzzleloading firearm manufactured prior to 1800. The firearmís ignition mechanism must consist of a hammer containing a naturally occurring stone that is spring propelled onto an iron or steel frizzen which, in turn, creates sparks to ignite a priming powder. The firearm must have open sights and be a .44 caliber or larger single-barrel long gun or a .50 caliber or larger single-barrel handgun that propels single-projectile ammunition.

(2) Prohibitions. While hunting deer during the flintlock muzzleloading deer season, it is unlawful to:

(i) Use manmade materials attached to the hammer or frizzen to create sparks.

(ii) Use telescopic sights.

(iii) Use or possess multiple projectile ammunition or ammunition other than required by section 2322(a)(4) of the act (relating to prohibited devices and methods).

(iv) Use a device not provided for in the act or in this subsection. "
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Re: Kasinite

Always has been unlaful to use in flintlock season.



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post #6 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-03-2011, 05:55 PM
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Re: Kasinite

Kasenit is a powder you put on the frizzen, or any other steel parts, that you wish to case harden. You have to heat the metal dull red with an acetylene torch first then sprinkle on the powder. It gives a thin high carbon content to the steel. In the case of frizzens it is so the flint will create a spark instead of gouging the soft steel.

It is done at the factory usually or sometimes by gunsmiths trying to fix soft frizzens. It is a real common process used to harden gears, sprockets ect. I can't see how it would be against the law.
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Re: Kasinite

Good thing I didn't follow some advice to use it on my frizzen for a better spark. Thanks TPlank and JohnS. Better to ask a than not know for sure.

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Re: Kasinite

I was wondering that myself as I read more about it. Sounds like it is used to harden the frizzen which is common practice with flintlocks.
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Re: Kasinite

What do the factories use to harden the frizzens?
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Re: Kasinite

Kasenit is a non-toxic, non-flammable powder that a red hot piece of metal is dipped in to give mild steel a carbonized hard layer. If you used it there is no way a wco would even know, because it is cleaned off after the treatment. Only the carbon layer remains. Heck Thompson Center case hardened it's frizzens for 20 years. Do the WCO's arrest folks using thompson center frizzens?

No wco would ever be able to tell the difference between a frizzen treated with Kasenite and carbonized with any other method, like case hardening at the factory. It is not attached to the frizzen when in use on the gun. It is the same as wrapping a frizzen in old shoe leather, putting it in a can of sand annd heating it to red hot for a few hours. The kasenit is not left on or attached to the frizzen. I'm not even sure where the idea came from that it is manmade. As I recall, it is a mixture of bone meal and a few other natural items.
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