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New flintlock need some help

I now have a .50 Cal. Thompson center flintlock. With it I got a bag of round balls weighting 176 grains Ea. one can Ea of fffg and ffffg. I think I remember 3f is for the load and 4f is for the flash pan. When I look on the Goex web site it only shows 188 gr. round ball and only one recommended load of 50 grains of power for the 3f(seams light??) and producers only 1140 fps. (Seems slow??) compare to all the 2f loads and other info. I have gotten second hand. Also I have several power containers but none shows me how many gains they hold. I would like to use this gun for hunting deer. How do I correctly measure the power? With out using my scale. What is the amount of power recommended for this load? Where can I find load/bullet recommendations? I know how to load it just hung up on the power and measuring.....

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Re: New flintlock need some help

You can shoot up to 80-100g of 3f but may not need that much for the most accurate load. Do not put too much 4f in the pan! Do not use aq scale and weigh blackpowder, it is measured by volume!
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Re: New flintlock need some help

I'd start at 70 grains of 3f for your load then go from there. Less is more when it comes to flashpan powder

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Re: New flintlock need some help

A rule of thumb I was given, for 2Fg/3Fg real black powder, is caliber to 2x caliber for rifles. And 1/2 cal. to caliber in pistol. So for your 50 cal. rifle, 50-100gr. Somewhere in that span is the best load with a certain lubed patch, 2Fg or 3Fg, barrel twist, and barrel length.

With FFFg, I would suggest starting @60-65gr of powder by volume. No need, unless you are competing, to weigh your loads. A lot of bother for no reason. Get a 60-120gr. brass measure. That will cover a broad range of calibers.

And NEVER use the FFFFg (4Fg) for a shooting load. Only in the pan for flash, or in a pinch as a small starter when using powder substitutes (Pyrodex, 777, White Hot) in a flintlock.

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Re: New flintlock need some help

sounds like your all set, except for a powder measure. you will need to pick one up some where, maybe you have a GM, cabela's, bass pro, ect in the area? 50 cal would be a 177 gr. rb. I would start around 70 gr of 3f and see how it shoots. you can work up or down if need be.
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Re: New flintlock need some help

Very helpful replies. Thank you very much..

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Re: New flintlock need some help

Good read for newbie!

http://www.cherrytreefamily.com/muzzledixon.htm

Load chart

http://www.goexpowder.com/load-chart.html

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Re: New flintlock need some help

Is this a new rifle or a used one. Most of the new ones are set up for a 6 o'clock hold.
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It was a kit from late 70 or early 80/s.

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Re: New flintlock need some help

FWIW, I had a T\C 50 cal kit gun once and it was the most accurate using 60gr (volume) FF powder. Any more powder it seemed to spray the PRB. But, it's best that you spend some range time and see what your's will do. I killed a pile of venison with the 'ol T\C. Lot's of jerky, lot's of chili, lot's of Ka-bob's on the grill!!
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