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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-10-2015, 01:39 PM Thread Starter
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4-F Goex

Knowing how much 4F a person uses for the flash pan doing some hunting and casual shooting the question came up about storing the powder for future use. I was give a full 1lb can that I know was already fairly old. The can I use is almost full, so you get the picture? I don't know if I can store the new (old) can away safely for future use being that it will be a long time before I get to it. Does black powder become unstable if not used for a long time and does anyone know how long it takes?
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Re: 4-F Goex

Black powder becomes if anything more volatile as it ages. If it gets wet it can be re-dried, and wetness is about the only thing that really causes it not to function. My dad has told me several stories of old black powder that he threw in fires, burned for proof-of-concept, etc. and it should not go bad if you store it for a long time.

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Re: 4-F Goex

Store in original container in a cool, dry place. It will out live you. Be sure the container has no rust issues. Cap tightly secured.

Heat, moisture, or oxygen will destabilize it. Destabilized BP will readily crush into a powder rather than break off sharply...or so I've read. I've never encountered any myself.
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Re: 4-F Goex

It does not have a shelf life. I have fired stuff over 100 years old that I found. One can of 4f lasts longer than a lifetime to the casual shooter.

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Re: 4-F Goex

I can add nothing to the above comments other than my total agreement. If I don't start shooting more, it will be necessary to put a few pound cans in my will!

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You can always shoot more! Practice makes perfect.
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Re: 4-F Goex

The last guy killed with a civil war artillery shell was killed about ten years ago. Black powder was still explosive.
Met a fellow at a range who was shooting some over 50 year cartridges. The cartridges fired without a miss. Made in the 1940's military arsenal.
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Re: 4-F Goex

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The last guy killed with a civil war artillery shell was killed about ten years ago. Black powder was still explosive.
Met a fellow at a range who was shooting some over 50 year cartridges. The cartridges fired without a miss. Made in the 1940's military arsenal.
Yep,and some of these shells weren,t just unearthed.Some were submerged in rivers.
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Re: 4-F Goex

a good working lock will use 3f just as good as 4f for the pan, that way one only needs to have one type of powder....

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Re: 4-F Goex

as many have already said, kept in the can with the cap tight and stored in any cool/dry place, it will last longer that we will.

the 3f vs 4f flash pan powder debate is always a big topic. 4f for me in all of my guns, I have used 3f in a pinch, but I believe 4f gives more reliable and faster ignition. however, opinions vary, so use what works best for you.
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