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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-05-2015, 02:37 AM Thread Starter
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touch hole liner

OK...so now thinking about putting in a white lightning liner in my TC...


Everything I've seen instructional wise says remove the breech plug and make sure the liner isn't protruding into the barrel...

I didn't think your supposed to take the breech plug off the barrel? I guess if building a rifle its a non-issue...

In my case its been on there forever...


How to I go about that step??
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Re: touch hole liner

Just looked at my barrel...the touch hole is in the breech plug....which means its in a patent breech...so does it matter if the touch hole protrudes into the chamber?? Me thinks not???


With the patent breech walls being thicker than your normal rifle barrel walls I don't think it will protrude at all..
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Re: touch hole liner

I have a white lightning in my 50 cal. Flash in the pans are a rare thing with that liner. You won't be sorry if you put one in. The 2 f can be seen protruding through the touch hole making misfires almost a thing of the past.
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Re: touch hole liner

You do not want the liner to protrude into the barrel at all; neither should it be recessed relative to the barrel interior. In either case (if it is not flush to the interior of the barrel), it with be a collection point for gunk and cause untold issues relative to maintance, performance and be the source of all kinds of issues. Not the least of which will be the propensity of cleaning jags, patches and solvents to get caught on it. Lastly, it protrudes into the barrel there is a real possibility that it will interferes with actually ramming the charge consistently. Maybe even cause a gap in the powder - which would be bad.

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Re: touch hole liner

The liner on a TC goes into the breech plug. The interior of the Tc breech plug has a center powder chamber about 3/8 of an inch in diameter. Your touch hole feeds into that chamber. If you have a Hawken with a 15/16 inch ACF barrel, that means your barrel wall thickness to the powder chamber is approximately 9/32 about .3 inches. How long is the liner?

If you have a renegade with a one inch barrel, your liner can be an extra 32nd long.

Keep in mind that your liner can't possibly extend into the bore on a TC gun. the powder chamber is behind the bore.
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Re: touch hole liner

Measure it with calipers. Measure barrel width, with depth rod on calipers measure through the flash hole to far side. Difference is the thickness of the metal and maximum length of liner. Adjust length of liner to match.

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Re: touch hole liner

There is almost never a good reason to remove a TC breech plug. Don't do it.

I personally like the non-removeable liners. Having one that screws in and out is unnecessary. You want the powder to be visible just inside the hole in the liner and you want that hole to be as close to the primer pan as possible so the flame travels the least distance to light the charge.

Some guys claim there is no difference. Truthfully, the statement should be no difference that "they can tell" Those allen wrench liners or outside coned liners result in a very small delay in ignition. A good flintlock ignites in .03 seconds. If your gun is slowed to .06 seconds or twice as slow, you still may not be able to tell just listening to the gun go off.

When you hear "kachunk, hiss, boom" you need to adjust your loading and priming techniques. When the gun is set up properly, it just goes "boom."
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Re: touch hole liner

Thanx guys!

I knew the gun has a powder chamber so measuring the barrel thickness won't work...

Zimms measurements will though!!


I might be "polishing a turd". But my turd will be highly polished and continue to knock down deer till I have a custom built...
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Re: touch hole liner

Just screw it in and look down the barrel. If it sticks out and you can see it turn it back out and file off a thread. Then repeat.
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