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Dead Bulls in Cameron County

I've heard that a local landowner, who has 2 acres of grains planted in Cameron County, has once again waged war on the elk. The local paper states that he shot and killed 2 bulls recently. And if I remember correctly, he shot several last year. This is all happening in the West Creek area, an area practically void of agriculture, like the rest of the county.

There is obviously a problem here. 2 acres is a decent chunk of land, but not too big to fence. To me it seems wasteful to keep killing these elk.

Now I don't know all the details, but it would only make sense for the PGC and landowner to start working together to resolve this issue. What do you guys think about all of this. Has anyone heard anything else?

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Re: Dead Bulls in Cameron County

The same thing happened in Clinton County along RT. 120. if I recaLL ABOUT 12 YRS AGO , Some guy was growing pumpkins on 2 ac. and he shot about 10 elk.

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The same thing happened in Clinton County along RT. 120. if I recaLL ABOUT 12 YRS AGO , Some guy was growing pumpkins on 2 ac. and he shot about 10 elk.
That was Adam Waltz, he still grows pumpkins and field corn. What I can't figure out is how can he plant on PennDOT right of way and Northfork Southern property. As I recall he was offered fence and help with the installation and turned it down.
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Re: Dead Bulls in Cameron County

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The same thing happened in Clinton County along RT. 120. if I recaLL ABOUT 12 YRS AGO , Some guy was growing pumpkins on 2 ac. and he shot about 10 elk.
You can basically do whatever you want with penndot right-of-way, but if they want it, they can take it............

I don't get the people complaining about landowners dealing with destructive elk............you have no idea how destructive a few elk can be in a short amount of time...........I know I wouldn't want to deal with them constantly eating the stuff I plant, no matter what it is..........there was a small group of Elk that migrated up this way a few years ago, they ate 3/4 of a corn field in a few days........the field was so wet, that the farmer could not pick his corn, and the elk had their way with it.......he did end up shooting one of them for crop damage, with which I have zero problem...........just because they are elk people think they should be treated differently than deer............


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I don't get the people complaining about landowners dealing with destructive elk............you have no idea how destructive a few elk can be in a short amount of time...........I know I wouldn't want to deal with them constantly eating the stuff I plant, no matter what it is..........
I basically agree, but when you turn down an offer for fencing, well, it seems that is just turning to spite.

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Re: Dead Bulls in Cameron County

You're provided with the fence minus the installation.Fencing in 2 acres isn't a huge job but it's a job nontheless.Also,woven wire fencing is kinda ugly.I know for a fact that my wife would through a fit if I fenced in a couple acres with woven wire fence that was close to the house.

I personally don't know how a person could get away with killing anything for crop damage on only 2 acres.I also agree that it would be best to find some sort of better solution.
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Re: Dead Bulls in Cameron County

2 acres can generate alot of produce, thus, a fair amount of income. Even "specialty" crop like pumpkin. 2 acres of straight feed corn, probably not that big of a deal in the grand scheme.

Not sure what the income ratio, or whatever, from the harvest is required for crop depradation.

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I have a hard time believing a persons primary source of income can come from 2 acres,Who knows though.
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Don't believe it has to be "primary" does it ? I mean, I can hobby farm 150 acres of corn and sell it, and I'm sure can kill for crop dep.

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Re: Dead Bulls in Cameron County

It would be a question for a WCO to answer, but I always thought farmers had to be making a livelihood from farming before you or he could shoot a deer for damage.
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