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post #1 of 66 (permalink) Old 08-14-2011, 08:55 AM Thread Starter
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past hunts and advice on projectiles for bear

2009 was a real bummer year for me hunting. I went Bear huntng with a friend in a hollow in 3A. Great area. We went scouting about a month before the hunt. There was a corn feild at the top of the ridge partially flattened with scat piles... big piles. So we decided to set up there. I sat up near the corn feild while my partner sat down below. One day a driving party came through... and another..later on that day, a bunch of amish kids. Well I believed it was a washout.

Opening day of deer season, I had to put up with my brother-in-law and a friend he brought with him who never hunted. They decided too mosey on up my trail about 9ish,"hey Ralph, you in there?, expecting me to be somewhere else because I could never stay put, but now a blind and heater, where would I rather be?. I couldn't believe it. His friend a Big guy, one you wouldn't expect to get cold late morning. He comes down the trail to go back to the house. The night before I offered to help my brother-in-law to set up his blind. No-go. Then an hour before dark, my bro-in-law had to take a dump.... and he's the "seasoned" hunter??

2010 was waaaaaaayyyy better. I was by myself. The whole ridge to my self. A deer box, my propane heater, coffee, side arm, and the Ol' 270 win. and such... I was set. I got a 5'er, oh well, I missed the antlerless permit, otherwise I wouldn't have taken the 5 point.

Anyway, this year I'm glad I that I can hunt bear during open week of deer. I think I finally narrowed it down to what bullet I want to use, for my .270 bear/deer combo. I read about using a better contructed bullet rather than a SP for bear. But then Sierra assured me that the 130 gameking will do fine. I asked about the problem of the bullet falling apart, and they told me the BT do because of short range high velocity shooting. The pro-hunter FB holds up better becuase of the flat base. Then I read in thier manual the 140 BT HP is designed for higher impact velocities at shorter ranges also at longer range. Hopefully my church will make a trip to hamburg next week and I'll pick up some 140 HPBT. Any thoughts on bullets, and your experiences? I just bought some Barnes TTSX 130 grain yesterday.

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post #2 of 66 (permalink) Old 08-14-2011, 12:07 PM
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Re: past hunts and advice on projectiles for bear

i will never recommend a 270 to anyone for a bear...period
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Re: past hunts and advice on projectiles for bear

absolutely nothing wrong with a .270 for bear!!! the first bear i killed didn't care that I was using a .270. he wasn't huge, but a 340lb bear isn't too shabby either. i use an .06 now, but wouldn't hesitate for one second to carry my 270 again. I would recommend 150gr. and up bullets.

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it is definitely capable. But I like to have a little more punch...JMO
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Sometimes people forget the tools our ancestors used to kill animals. Dead is dead. If a black powder rifle or bow can kill, im sure a 270 can.
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Well the thing is, is this. Blackpowder is a low pressure rifle with a big slug, and do the job at reasonable ranges.

I don't think I need to get into a bow.

Now as far as .270... well here's some news for ya. A 130 grain bullet has MORE mass than a 150 grain .30 and right there with 165 and the 460 weatherby 350 grainr, a 150 grainer has MORE mass, Sectional Density, than a 200 grain .338 projectile. Now, if you want to argue physics, be my guest, cause I'm out of it.

Energy... .30-06 isn't much higher....165 vs 130
.338 is bout 1000 ftlbs more at 3000 fps at the muzzle, but how much is enough? I though that magnums were in excess, but that me... this world is about nothing but numbers and marketing.


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Re: past hunts and advice on projectiles for bear

You can use what ever is legal, they will all kill a bear. I myself shot a bear with a 270 using 130 grain silver tips. And guess what.. I made a bad shot on it I hit it directley in the shoulder blade and ended up loosing the bear. Now if I would have hit it in the heart or lungs it woulda been game over for him. Just go's to show. you can have the biggest caliber in the woods but if you make a poor shot then theres little diffrence.
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You can use what ever is legal, they will all kill a bear. I myself shot a bear with a 270 using 130 grain silver tips. And guess what.. I made a bad shot on it I hit it directley in the shoulder blade and ended up loosing the bear. Now if I would have hit it in the heart or lungs it woulda been game over for him. Just go's to show. you can have the biggest caliber in the woods but if you make a poor shot then theres little diffrence.
Those silver tip are a bit thinned jacketed. But I think you could have bagged him/her in the right spot.

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Re: past hunts and advice on projectiles for bear

Get yourself some 150 grain Nosler Partitions, and call it a day.

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I have 150's loaded from last year and Nosler says they can be used on Deer too... just might do that.

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