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Got a ? about clover

I was talking to a buddy of mine last night about food plots and told him I was going to put in a clover plot. He told me that I should put in a cover crop like wheat or oats because it will take about a year to get a good clover plot and if I don't the deer will pull the clover out by the roots and I will wind up with nothing. What are you guys feelings on this. I haven't seen on here where anybody said about the cover crop for clover.

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Re: Got a ? about clover

Yes first year crop will do better with a nurse crop.

Also, I add chicory.




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Re: Got a ? about clover

I have always planted clover in the fall with winter rye as a nurse crop. The nurse crop will also help keep weeds at bay.
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Re: Got a ? about clover

I have planted clover plots in the spring and fall. I believe fall is the best time to plant and a cover crop is a good idea. Fall planting will reduce the weeds that grow over the life time of your plot.

However, I did plant a clover plot last spring and I used brassica as cover crop. The plot has done well, but I feel I spend a little more time on weed patrol for this plot.

As RB said, I would recommend adding chicory and be very careful which types of rye you add. A perennial rye will take over your plot.

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Re: Got a ? about clover

I did one last spring.
Just seeded it a little on the heavy side.
There deer were really in it last year, even during deer season.
This spring, it's fine.

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Re: Got a ? about clover

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Yes first year crop will do better with a nurse crop.

Also, I add chicory.
RB are you using the chicory as the cover crop or just another additive? If using as an additive what do you use as a cover crop?

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Re: Got a ? about clover

The first year I did clover/chicory with oats as a cover crop..it was a bit dry but the chicory went nuts in year 1






Then after that 1st year I just kept the field mowed a few times a summer and maybe a little overseed of clover and chicory in spring and some 6-24-24 to jump start it and the clover and chicory continued on great and the oats of course did not go past year one.



Got about 4 good years from this plot, but it is now planted with evergreens and although it will still get mowed and clover will be in it, it will not look like this again in my ownership tenure. I now save the good plot sweat equity for those in the center of the property, not down by the road near the neighbors place, posted signs and passing spotlights...actually it will be the camp's front yard in 2012 I hope.

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Re: Got a ? about clover

Thanks for the info! I do have a couple more ? though. I just sprayed round-up yesterday and today. I'm planing on disking on friday afternoon and then planting in the evening. I'm also going to spread pelletized lime in the evening when I seed. It is suppose to rain saturday and sunday. Is this what I should be doing and when. Also did you plant in the fall or spring?

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Re: Got a ? about clover

Personally I would disk and lime this weekend then take a break from it. Plant in June , maybe hit any 1st time spray surviors again around memorial day....

I think I planted this plot for the first time in June, rain becomes a factor but we USUALLY get enough. Clover anc chicory are a long haul planting IE they don;t have a certain # of days window to maturity to hit, like corn or beans so no real reason to rush them in. They just need a start in year one and will likely look nice by Fall 1. The oats will go nice planted in June and cover well for the summer.




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Is this what I should be doing and when.
If you want a weed filled plot this is exactly what you should be doing. Spray now, lime and disk, Spray again in June, spray again in late July, plant mid Aug with rye or wheat or oats.
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