annual clover opinions - The HuntingPA.com Outdoor Community
 2Likes
  • 1 Post By RegularJoe
  • 1 Post By cspot
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 12-05-2017, 08:52 AM Thread Starter
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NW PA 1B
Posts: 1,424
Back To Top
annual clover opinions

I've read some on guys using annual clovers that they frost seed where they intend to put brassicas in the fall. The idea being the clover will provide early spring greens for deer even if browsed a good bit and still be a great source of nitrogen for your brassicas to feed on when you switch it over late summer and produce big tops in the fall. Anyone ever try this? Any experience with annual clovers at all? What species or seed did you use?

Sadly most of my life has been wasted, but the rest I spent hunting, fishing, and trapping...
RegularJoe is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 12-05-2017, 10:33 AM
Diehard Outdoorsman
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: SC PA
Posts: 3,886
Back To Top
Berseem clover is annual clover that is in a lot seed mixes with clover. If memory serves me correctly, it cannot be frost-seeded...but I'm not 100% on that.

A red clover would be cheap enough to frost seed in the spring ahead of a brassica fall planting, adding Nitrogen as you said. White clover will work as well, but red would be a better price to be tilled in as green manure for a fall planting.
OAWC is offline  
post #3 of 7 (permalink) Old 12-06-2017, 10:22 AM Thread Starter
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NW PA 1B
Posts: 1,424
Back To Top
That's what I have read too OA, I still have some planning to do but I am going to try this in a couple plots and see how it goes.
OAWC likes this.

Sadly most of my life has been wasted, but the rest I spent hunting, fishing, and trapping...
RegularJoe is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old 12-06-2017, 01:12 PM
Frequent Contributor
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Westmoreland County,PA
Posts: 658
Back To Top
I've never frost seeded annual clovers but I planted crimson clover with winter rye and oats for a fall food plot. The crimson clover grew enough for a food source that fall and continued to grow the next year. I tried a mix of crimson clover and balansa clover with rye and oats this fall. For some reason neither clover grew very well so far.


The annual clovers seem to grow a little faster than red, white and ladino clover which may allow them to be used as a food source in the spring when planted in the spring. Whereas red, white and ladino clovers may not grow enough to be a food source until you are ready to kill them in late summer/fall.


Most clover cost about the same in the end. Ladino clover costs a little more per pound but requires less pounds per acre. $8/lb at 5lb/acre costs the same $5/lb at 8lb/ac.
Outdoorsman is offline  
post #5 of 7 (permalink) Old 12-06-2017, 10:58 PM
Senior Member
 
cspot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Western PA-2A
Posts: 11,977
Back To Top
Actually you can plant the red clover in the fall with the brassica's. The clover will come back up in the Spring. I did it once with good results. Saves you from working the ground up twice a year.
Outdoorsman likes this.

Traditions only last if you pass them down to your kids!
cspot is offline  
post #6 of 7 (permalink) Old 12-07-2017, 09:21 AM Thread Starter
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NW PA 1B
Posts: 1,424
Back To Top
That is a good idea too. I had very poor output this year from what I believe was lack of rain and over grazing. We had a LOT of corn in our area this year so I think my plots took a lot of abuse before ears formed on the corn and with the lack of rain they all looked like the putting greens on a golf course...or a soldiers first hair cut if you will. I am considering this approach to jump start things in the spring and provide nitrogen for the fall planting is all.

Outdoorsman I have found better prices on clover than that online, I have not checked with my local co-op yet as their prices seem to change more often.

Sadly most of my life has been wasted, but the rest I spent hunting, fishing, and trapping...
RegularJoe is offline  
post #7 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-11-2018, 09:39 PM
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Conestoga&Mills
Posts: 1,160
Back To Top
I can't give a specific name ,but try your local seed store, they might help you out
Dennis Hill is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The HuntingPA.com Outdoor Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome