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Is it legal to release and shoot chukars on state game lands for dog training?
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Is it legal to release and shoot chukars on state game lands for dog training?
Yes except during the following times: It is nlawful to: (24) Engage in dog training activities on small game from the Monday prior to the start of the youth pheasant season until the opening of the regular pheasant season in 139.4 (relating to seasons and bag limits for the license year). This paragraph may not be construed to limit dog training activities on any other public or private lands or waters not designated as State game lands.

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As I recall, that even included an exception from the Sunday ban

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As I recall, that even included an exception from the Sunday ban
They were removed from the status of game birds, therefore the Sunday hunting ban does not apply to Chukars.

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Well this has been so confusing to me. I also tried to find this answer and it's always a different answer. I've heard yes like previous answers. The. I ve read other things rulesmention "no guns while training on sgl"...and "no birds can be released on sgl. "A wco even told me that once I stopped to ask about it. It's driving me mad!

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There is a sticky in this forum on sgl training. Should clear it up.

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What about red-leg partridges?

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What about red-leg partridges?

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No, by regulation this is it what you may release:

137.2. Release of animals.
(a) Except as otherwise provided, it is unlawful to release captive held or captive raised game or wildlife on any lands, public or private, without first securing a permit from the Commission. Lawfully acquired mallard ducks, ringneck pheasant, bobwhite quail, chukar partridge and Hungarian partridge may be released for dog training or hunting purposes.

Photos of Chukars and Reg Legged patriarch. They are similar but not the same bird.

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No, by regulation this is it what you may release:

137.2. Release of animals.
(a) Except as otherwise provided, it is unlawful to release captive held or captive raised game or wildlife on any lands, public or private, without first securing a permit from the Commission. Lawfully acquired mallard ducks, ringneck pheasant, bobwhite quail, chukar partridge and Hungarian partridge may be released for dog training or hunting purposes.

Photos of Chukars and Reg Legged patriarch. They are similar but not the same bird.
I understand the Pennsylvania allows the release of Alectoris Chukar but not Alectoris Rufa. Now here's the question. Do you believe that anyone responsible for enforcing the laws could look at Alectoris Rufa and know definitively that it wasn't Alectoris Chukar?

---- update: The reason for the above snarky comment -----
I buy Chukar semi-frequently from a somewhat local game farm. I doubt very much that I would know the difference if he sold me red-legged partridge instead of Chukar.

I'm guessing that there is no valid reason to allow Chukar to be stocked, but prohibit red-legged partridge from being stocked. It is probably just because that when they wrote the law maybe 75+ years ago, they didn't realize that there were multiple members of the Alectoris genus. Apparently the different species of rock partridge species readily hybridize as well. I'm not sure how the PA law would be enforced with regard to these hybrids. Would it need to be 100% Alectoris Chukar in order to be released? Would 51% chukar suffice? What about 25% chukar and 75% Rufa? How would you know without genetic testing?

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