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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 08-09-2019, 12:50 PM Thread Starter
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Tomey, Casey, and Wolf

Anybody see what these guys are trying to get passed and made law for gun ownership.
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Nope, and I doubt I want to know.

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Toomey- Hardcore on background checks and red flag.....


Wolf... All assault and semi's


Casey.... does whatever everyone else wants... except Pennsylvanians
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here is one from Tombstone Toomey


https://www.toomey.senate.gov/?p=op_ed&id=2473
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here is one from Tombstone Toomey


https://www.toomey.senate.gov/?p=op_ed&id=2473

thats already illegal. so, they want to pass a law that forces them to enforce an existing law instead of holding agencies accountable for not enforcing the existing laws we have....i would laugh if this wasnt so stupid.


they want the feds to notify state authority so the thug can be charged under state law instead of federal law...LOL

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As bohnr said, the denial notification is already law, but by their own account it is seldom enforced. An issue I do have with this new/old law is what provisions are built into it to address when a false denial occurs? I'm sure we all know of someone who has experienced a database "glitch", whether through NICS, Do Not Fly List, or just trying to log into an Internet application. What happens then? Will the person be arrested and have to prove their innocence?

Strengthening our firearm background check system is an area where this is possible. In addition to expanding the scope of background checks, Congress should promptly pass the bipartisan NICS Denial Notification Act to ensure that state and local law enforcement are notified when someone prohibited from purchasing a gun attempts to do so."

The NICS Denial Notification Act provides states with critical information to help them enforce existing laws against individuals who attempt to purchase firearms but have no legal right to do so. Under this measure, federal authorities would now be required to alert state law enforcement within 24 hours when individuals "lie and try" to purchase firearms, which can be a warning sign of additional criminal behavior.


Also, what exactly does, expanding the scope of background checks, mean? What additional information will be looked for?
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As bohnr said, the denial notification is already law, but by their own account it is seldom enforced. An issue I do have with this new/old law is what provisions are built into it to address when a false denial occurs? I'm sure we all know of someone who has experienced a database "glitch", whether through NICS, Do Not Fly List, or just trying to log into an Internet application. What happens then? Will the person be arrested and have to prove their innocence?

Strengthening our firearm background check system is an area where this is possible. In addition to expanding the scope of background checks, Congress should promptly pass the bipartisan NICS Denial Notification Act to ensure that state and local law enforcement are notified when someone prohibited from purchasing a gun attempts to do so."

The NICS Denial Notification Act provides states with critical information to help them enforce existing laws against individuals who attempt to purchase firearms but have no legal right to do so. Under this measure, federal authorities would now be required to alert state law enforcement within 24 hours when individuals "lie and try" to purchase firearms, which can be a warning sign of additional criminal behavior.


Also, what exactly does, expanding the scope of background checks, mean? What additional information will be looked for?
And therin lies the danger of these proposals. They sell it as a law to make sure the bad guys don’t get guns but nobody ever stops to question just what the will be looking into and what exactly would disqualify you from owning a gun.
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