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"Real ID" needed to buy guns and ammo ?

cant say i didnt warn everyone about the real reason the Federal Government is pushing for Real ID for everyone. they want everyone to have one, they are trying their best to make it mandatory but some States including PA have made it optional. YOU DO NOT NEED ONE....


if you plan on flying, even domestically or entering a Federal building you can use a passport. I will drive and never go into a Federal building.


once everyone has one they can attach all kinds of regulations regarding what it is to be used for AND....



California DOJ is pushing for a emergency regulations that would make it mandatory to have a Real ID to buy guns and ammo.


https://www.nraila.org/articles/2019...tion-transfers


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DOJ, however, is attempting to overrule BATFE’s prior clarification by mandating all firearm and ammunition purchasers possess a federally compliant “REAL ID” or provide additional documentation such as a U.S. passport as proof of lawful presence in the U.S. What’s more, DOJ is attempting to adopt these new regulations on an “emergency” basis, thereby limiting public participation in the rule making process to 5 days.
DO NOT GET A REAL ID AND VOTE STRAIGHT REPUBLICAN.........

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With just over a week to go before a looming ammunition control law takes effect, California officials are backing a new requirement that could leave many unable to buy ammo.

Prop. 63, approved by voters in 2016 after an effort by now-Gov. Gavin Newsom, requires a background check be conducted on all sales of ammunition in the state. Set to go live on July 1, the California Department of Justice just over a week ago filed emergency regulations to require a federally compliant California driver license or ID card to legally buy ammo. The problem is, many in the state don’t currently have one of these “REAL ID” cards yet.

“Many Californians do not yet have the REAL ID, and because it’s not required for air travel until Oct. 1, 2020, they have not rushed to get this new license,” says pro-gun California Waterfowl in an alert. “While some have gotten it easily, many have had to wait a month or two for a DMV appointment to get this ID, so it’s unlikely every gun owner could get this ID in time for the July 1 start date of ammo background checks.”

Alternatively, residents who want to buy ammunition under the new requirements can use a passport or birth certificate to vouch for their status, but advocates point out that most people don’t carry such documentation with them on a trip to the local gun store to buy bullets.

“There is no justification for enacting this requirement this close to the implementation date of ammunition background checks, not when it would effectively treat tens of thousands of law-abiding Californians like criminals by preventing them from purchasing guns and ammunition,” said California Waterfowl.

Worse, on the same day the Prop. 63 rules become active, California’s ban on traditional hunting ammunition expands to all game during all seasons. This means that sportsmen who have legacy lead ammo and are looking to be compliant for the upcoming seasons could be refused such a purchase if they don’t have their papers in order.

Meanwhile, according to conservation statistics, in 1970, there were 763,671 hunting licenses sold in California, a figure that nosedived nearly 70 percent to 269,055 last year while the state’s overall population doubled in the same period.


Attorneys representing the California Rifle and Pistol Association and the National Rifle Association on Thursday submitted a letter to DOJ officials protesting the nature of the emergency regulations, arguing they conflict with federal and state law. The proposed emergency reg has an open public comment period that runs through June

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yep...cant confiscate guns but they will make it impossible to buy ammo. Federal, Remington, Winchester and others should send semi truck loads of ammo to California and have parking lot sales before July and sell it for what it cost them to make it.

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yep...cant confiscate guns but they will make it impossible to buy ammo. Federal, Remington, Winchester and others should send semi truck loads of ammo to California and have parking lot sales before July and sell it for what it cost them to make it.
Actually they should stop selling to any and all law enforcement on the west coast until the restrictions are lifted, see how long it takes to get those states straightened out.
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thats a great Idea. if people cant buy ammo why sell it to Government agencies in those States. Barrett quit selling to Government agencies in California and they wont even honor the ones they sold to Law Enforcement.
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Actually they should stop selling to any and all law enforcement on the west coast until the restrictions are lifted, see how long it takes to get those states straightened out.
Law Enforcement, AND the Military.
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i agree...no ammo shipments to any agency in California.
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No longer any reason for "armed" private security for our "idols" in the entertainment industry or our Calif. politicians either.

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I heard if you have a green card you can buy guns and ammo in the USA...That needs to end...
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No longer any reason for "armed" private security for our "idols" in the entertainment industry or our Calif. politicians either.
And let us not forget to include Diane Fienstien in the no need for armed security! And since California considers itself a national leader for gun control, lets let them lead the way by example, dissallowing firearms as a self defense tool for anyone supporting or voting for gun control.

As it has been said before, if gun control works, Chicago would be Mayberry!
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