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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-30-2010, 08:19 PM Thread Starter
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My buddy and I were talking about a 45-70 he thinks its a good deer gun. I was trying to tell him its over kill. What do you think?
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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-30-2010, 08:25 PM
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Re: Cannon

It's a good deer cartridge/gun.

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My best friend hunts with one, that thing is awesome!

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post #4 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-30-2010, 10:40 PM
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Re: Cannon

its really not as "big" as many believe...the bullet from your deer rifle likely puts out more energy than the 45/70...

its pretty equivilent to a slug gun when both are shooting normal factory loads...though i know there are some hotter 45/70 loads out there...


big heavy bullet with a large .45" diameter and a rather slow velocity...
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Re: Cannon

I love the 45/70. I just got in from the shed and cast around 200 bullets with a mold I haven't tried yet. Here's the bullet. It's a 420gr next to a 45acp round. I have a mold in the same design in 340gr that shoots really well out of my Marlin. If this bullet shoots as well, it's what I will be using for bear this year.

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Re: Cannon

Without going to the books for the exact answer I will say that it has less energy the than a 30-06/308 and more than a 30-30. Perfectly good short to medium range deer round.

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post #7 of 19 (permalink) Old 10-01-2010, 12:09 PM
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fantastic brush busting gun for deer in PA. heavy slug moving with enough authority to do the job...handloads take it to MORE than enough authority...but lets face it, dead is dead and that's your objective, right?

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THERE is no such thing as "TOO DEAD"...either you are or you aren't and your better off "TOO DEAD" than not!! That big ole' slug is just like hittin'with a slug or an inline muzzloader..it won't even hardly expand in a whitetail at those velocities and won't cause much damage either.. you'll also be amazed at how little "blood shot" meat there will be right around the enterance hole.. good cartridge, not for everyone or every situation but it'll work..
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post #9 of 19 (permalink) Old 10-01-2010, 12:58 PM
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The 45-70 is adequate for deer, but not a good choice for deer. the energy is lower than an '06 with a 180 grain bullet in the '06. But the recoil is 35% greater. And I'm talking the low loaded factory, not P+ or heavy handloads. Most hunters can't shoot the heavy recoil of the '06 180grain with any great accuracy...so the added recoil works agains them on accuracy.

Deer are very, very easy to kill animals...so I doubt the 45-70 with its 300-405 grain bullet is really needed at all.

If one wants a PA deer lever rifle with a large bullet, the 44 mag and the 444 are probably better than the 45-70.

One thing about really 'hunting' in PA, it is hilly and every 45-70 I've shot are heavy rifles. Some puffing carrying alday up hills?

But if a person wants a BIG bore the 45-70 will ceertainly kill a deer in PA. I once used my 416 mag on a PA deer, and it has more than 3 times the energy of the 45-70. Not a perfect deer rifle, but it will work!
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post #10 of 19 (permalink) Old 10-01-2010, 01:46 PM
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Re: Cannon

The .45-70 is no cannon and certainly not an elephant gun. I have shot deer with the .45-70 and while it works fine it doesn't do the job any better than a .270 or .30-06.
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