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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 11-22-2012, 02:51 PM Thread Starter
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302'd (involuntary commission) and owning a gun?

Not me, but a nephew.

Guy had some issues recently and, allegedly, was 302'd or, as I understand it, involuntarily committed to an institution.


Am I interpreting the laws correctly that this now prohibits him from owning a firearm?
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Re: 302'd (involuntary commission) and owning a gun?

That is correct.

"Act 77 amended the Mental Health Procedures Act of 1976 and requires all counties to submit to the Pennsylvania state police the names of all individuals who have been involuntarily committed to in-patient treatment. This Act prohibits anyone committed under Sections 302, 303 or 304 to possess, use, manufacture, control, sell or transfer firearms."
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Re: 302'd (involuntary commission) and owning a gun?

If they can't sell or transfer how do they give up possession?

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Re: 302'd (involuntary commission) and owning a gun?

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If they can't sell or transfer how do they give up possession?
That's my next question.
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Re: 302'd (involuntary commission) and owning a gun?

how easy a basic right is taken away.....

"No State shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor."

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Re: 302'd (involuntary commission) and owning a gun?

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how easy a basic right is taken away.....
More importantly, how quickly has an unknowing felon been created.

I'm going to drop the bomb on him tomorrow when he comes to visit.

I don't think that he'll be very happy.
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Re: 302'd (involuntary commission) and owning a gun?

It would seem that way, but they usually won't 302 a person unless that person wants to harm themselves or others. I can't tell you how many times I've had a mental health delegate release a person because they ask them do you want to hurt yourself or others and the person says nope so they are released. Getting 302'd [censored] and the loss of gun ownership would suck, I'm all for gun ownership but there are one or two things that are more important like a persons life. To the O.P. talk to a lawyer and see what they say if as a family member they can be given to you or his family to safeguard. Good luck and God Bless.

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Re: 302'd (involuntary commission) and owning a gun?

sorry buckhunter, i dissagree.

"No State shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor."

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Re: 302'd (involuntary commission) and owning a gun?

I have to say that I don't know ALL of the details, but I was told specifically that they "302'd him" in a text message.

I had to google "302" to find out what it meant.

Then, I started to put 2 and 2 together....

He was an attempted suicide, so they were well within their rights to 302 him. I don't think that it was an honest attempt, but a cry for help.

Tomorrow is the first time I've seen him, face-to-face since this happened. I'll tip-toe around the subject.


Part of my reasoning for this is that I believe that he has some family heirloom firearms that I don't want to see confiscated or lost to some nameless/faceless government entity if he winds up getting nailed for this.
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Re: 302'd (involuntary commission) and owning a gun?

thats one thing I agree on. The persons firearms should stay with the family. I also am a firm believer that the person should be able to be re-evaluated at a later date and regain there ability to possess the firearms. Sometimes people just go through bad stuff. Once again, prayers sent.

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