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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 08-20-2012, 01:53 PM Thread Starter
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Help me out if you can.

Morning all. I have a Ruger rear tang safty 74' in 7mm. I started having issues with shooting consistant. I know the gun nor myself is a tack driver. Before I was quite please with 1-11/2 groups at 100 yrds. Last year, When sighting in to make sure I was ok, I would get first shot good, followed by a second shot in either 4-6 inches left, right, up, down. Now if I let it cool completely, one would be ok followed by same issue. This fall I glass bedded and free floated it. checked crown, bolt lugs everything looked ok. replace scope, bases, rings everything. Took it out yesterday same issue. I have changed ammo, and now pretty much eveything I can think of? Is there anything I (inexpensive) I can do? or should I just get rid of it? I would like to avoid spending much money due to the fact that a new gun price and cost to fix this will become parallel quickly. All thoughts and inputs welcome. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Help me out if you can.

I would try a very good cleaning, just a shot in the dark as yyou seem to have done all the usual things.

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I'll definately try it. I found a site that can "accurize" my barrel, but at 500 dollars, not sure I want to try that.

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Re: Help me out if you can.

How often do you thoroughly clean out the copper in your barrel?

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Been my (limited) experience with tang safety M77s, that how you retighten the action screws, can affect accuracy.

Probably some advice via Google, as I haven't messed with mine for some time and forget the procedure? Mostly because one step son has had the rifle for a few years now and since it still shoots well, I haven't fooled with it.

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Been my (limited) experience with tang safety M77s, that how you retighten the action screws, can affect accuracy.

Probably some advice via Google, as I haven't messed with mine for some time and forget the procedure? Mostly because one step son has had the rifle for a few years now and since it still shoots well, I haven't fooled with it.
Denny beat me to it!! Make sure the action screws are torqued correctly. You may be surprised at how they affect the accuracy in Rugers. Do a Google search on tightening M77 action screw and plenty of instructions will be found.

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Re: Help me out if you can.

OK, I'll check the screw tightening amount and if there is a proper order. As far as cleaning, this past winter I throughly cleaned it after the bedding and free floating. I thought it could have been a copper build up as well. I will check these suggestions out and post back. Thanks all.

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As has been suggested already a thorough cleaning to remove any and all copper from the barrel is the first place to start. I had to clean and re-clean a friends rifle over a period of days to eventually get out all the years of buildup of copper and neglect. Accuracy went from inconsistent to amazing afterward.
The action screws proper torque amount absolutely can make a difference.
Check for a nick in the muzzle crown.
Replace scope if all else fails.

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As has been suggested already a thorough cleaning to remove any and all copper from the barrel is the first place to start. I had to clean and re-clean a friends rifle over a period of days to eventually get out all the years of buildup of copper and neglect. Accuracy went from inconsistent to amazing afterward.
The action screws proper torque amount absolutely can make a difference.
Check for a nick in the muzzle crown.
Replace scope if all else fails.
I would try this. If the action has 3 screws, which I beleive it does, Tighten the front screw & back screw to specs. & just snug the center one. If you over torque the center screw, you can actually twist the action down in the middle, which will cause some accuracy problems.
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Re: Help me out if you can.

I have the same model made in the 80s in 7mm and it is pinpoint accurate.
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