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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 01-25-2012, 11:52 AM Thread Starter
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what is "accurate?"

this word is used (missused?) on a regular basis. what does it mean? does it really have a way to quantify? what is "accurate" to me might not be to you. is a 3 shot group a good measurement? 5? 10? 50? at what distance? 50 yards? 100? 300? 600? just how important is it to the average hunter or shooter? to a hunter does group size matter? or is that first shot out of a cold barrel the only real test? just some things to ponder on "what is accurate?"
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Re: what is "accurate?"

yeah you are right overthehill, it depends on the person or what they need for accuracy. I have had some custom built long range guns so for those with hand loads if I am shooting 100 yds to have it "dialed in" and the 5 shots arent touching in the bull I am not happy...if I am shooting my brush gun that I probably am not going to shoot over 100 yds in the mountain and more likey 30 to 60yds while hunting a 1- 2 inch group works.
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Re: what is "accurate?"

Good post overthehill, for me accuracy from a hunting stand point means hitting what I am shooting at, where I wanted to hit it. As far as putting holes in paper, I get pretty obsessed in making the best group my gun produce. It took me a couple of years to finally become happy with my load in my groundhog gun. It's producing a 5 shot group under .45 of a inch at a 100yds. Thats about as good as I can make it shoot. Tried many different load combos and that's the best. Now my deer rifle accuracy is 1 inch at 100. I don't even load for it. I'm happy with the factory, cheapo, ammo. It's always worked well for me, and I don't hunt deer enough to really go crazy with making up a load.
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Re: what is "accurate?"

If a big game rifle will put 5 shots into an inch and a half I deem it to be accurate.
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Re: what is "accurate?"

Great post, I have no input for you but it helps to get a good grasp on what I need to look for you know.

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yeah you are right overthehill, it depends on the person or what they need for accuracy. I have had some custom built long range guns so for those with hand loads if I am shooting 100 yds to have it "dialed in" and the 5 shots arent touching in the bull I am not happy...if I am shooting my brush gun that I probably am not going to shoot over 100 yds in the mountain and more likey 30 to 60yds while hunting a 1- 2 inch group works.

Actually a 1-2" group will take care of business on deer way out past 100 yards. A 4" gun will handle sub 100 yard shooting with aplomb.
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folks; i work at a gunshop. i hear how "accurate" this or that all day long. i has become "meaningless" to me. wanted to get feeling from others what it means to them. keep it coming! ps. i try to hold the 10 ring of the 600 yard f class target. about 1 moa. do it about 94 percent of time. goal is .75moa at 1000 yds. by f t/r standards i am ok, by benchrest standards i am awful. by hunters standards i am???
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Re: what is "accurate?"

I think that what is acceptable accuracy depends somewhat on what size of animal you intend on shooting. Onbviouslt the kill zone ov a prarrie dog is a lot smaller than that of a deer. That said, my personal standars is less than 1 1/2 inch at 100 yards for a three shot group. I see no point in shooting mora than three shots with a big game hunting rifle, as I most probably will not shoot three shots. Also after three shots the barrel heats up and the the point of impact well begin to shift with many rifles. I really like to establish accuracy in my rifles based on the first shot from a clean, cold barrel.
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Re: what is "accurate?"

For me it's less group size as most sound rifles can be coaxed into .5"-1 3/4" three shot groups provided a decent bbl./bedding/scope/load. At the upper end that's more then enough for deer and such and at the lower end it's more then most varmint shooters can take advantage of in the field. Having said that, what makes an accurate rifle "accurate" to me is one that fits the above criteria and<span style="font-weight: bold"> doesn't shift point of impact</span> from year to year. That makes for a deadly outfit and there are few rifles that'll do that year after year. Find one and you've got a gem.

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Re: what is "accurate?"

these days with modern guns accuracy is usually a function of the shooter rather than the gun. i am a decent shooter with bifocals that limit by vision so i am happy with 2" groups at 100 yards with a scope and a decent trigger. 95% of my shooting is done at 50 yards in my backyard though and for that i want 1" 3 shot group measured center-to-center on the holes.

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