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reduce recoil in a 270 will take it below 243 level from what i have read? Midway USA has some. expensive little buggers. 243 is a great cal. for deer. recoil is low but the bark is loud.

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... I'm considering a 308 or 243. Which has less recoil. Thanks
The 243 is a necked down 308. 308 typically shoots 150-165 gr. bullets, 243 typically shoots 85-95 gr bullets with the same cartridge case, substantially lighter bullets results in noticeably less recoil. 243 is also typically loaded with a few less grains of powder than the 308. 243 is my go to gun, it is way more than adequate for any Pa deer. Put a 243 in the hands of a child or woman and they do superbly with them. If you go to the Harrisburg Show look up Dave Marsh owner of Big Game Big Country. He will tell you the story of a woman from Pa that wanted to hunt coastal brown bear with her 243. He was apprehensive but she said that is her gun and that is what she is used to. He figured he was there with his backup gun so ok. He said the bear dropped with a single shot no different than a 338. I've hunted with the Inuits and for some that is their cartridge of choice on Polar Bear. It's a one shot one kill on any deer easily out to 500yds. I'd have a hard time counting the number of deer I've taken with it over 200 yds. Last Saturday's was 230 yds, last year was 335.
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I never shot the .243,.270,.308 so I can`t comment on their recall . but I agree with Strut10 on trying a 30-30 for your son
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I never shot the .243,.270,.308 so I can`t comment on their recall . but I agree with Strut10 on trying a 30-30 for your son
I have shot them all and of all of them the .308 has the hardest recoil. I would not recommend the 30-30 because the recoil is harder than the .270 and the 243. Again, a rifle that does not fit a kid will have much more felt recoil than if it fit. One of the problems with fitting a kid with a rifle is people want to give them one of their rifles and unless the kid is the same size as the adult the gun probably does not fit the kid, which will give them more felt recoil which could turn them away from wanting to hunt.
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As far as I know all the the modern .30/30 lever guns have a cross-bolt safety. They still require cycling all rounds to unload. Not the safest gun for a kid. That alone is good reason to consider other options for a beginner.

A traditional lever gun without a cross bolt safety really ups the odds of an accidental discharge.

If you could find a .257 Roberts , that would be the ideal cartridge.

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I have shot them all and of all of them the .308 has the hardest recoil. I would not recommend the 30-30 because the recoil is harder than the .270 and the 243. Again, a rifle that does not fit a kid will have much more felt recoil than if it fit. One of the problems with fitting a kid with a rifle is people want to give them one of their rifles and unless the kid is the same size as the adult the gun probably does not fit the kid, which will give them more felt recoil which could turn them away from wanting to hunt.
This. Alot of the youth guns now come with spacers that you can keep adding to the gun as the kid grows, so it will always fit.

In addition the reduced recoil rounds do make a difference and they still have good performance.

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I bought my 8 year old a tikka t3x compact in 7mm-08. Nice gun for youth. Won't need another gun for pa bear and deer. Shot hornady and hsm low recoil. Both were accurate but the hsm shot softer.
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If you reload, try a faster burning powder, My Daughter all 100 lbs shot my 308 with no problem 125 gr spitzers and 4320 or 4895 powder, shot 3 deer in 3 years then she quit. Boo Hoo

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My youngest Son was 11yrs old the first year that Mentored youth took effect.
He is a big kid but too much recoil is too much recoil no matter of size. I bought him a Tikka T3 Synthetic in 30/06 and loaded him 130gr Hornady Spire Points with a load of IMR4895 that was somewhere under 45grs but somewhat over 43grs. It was about 2400fps. He shot groundhogs all summer with that load in short sleeves. By the time deer season arrived he knew the rifle and load in and out. He used that load for 2 years and many Ghogs and 2 buck died swiftly. The 3rd year I kept the 130 bullet but bumped the powder up to get it moving 2700fps. More dead groundhogs all summer and yet another buck fell that season. By year 4 I loaded 150gr Hornady SPs and a healthy dose of IMR4350 at 2850/2900fps and he has used it ever since. He will turn 24 this Spring.

I am sure that a similar load using IMR4895 and 100gr 110gr .277 soft point at 2300- 2400fps will do a very good job also.
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