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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-27-2018, 01:29 PM Thread Starter
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Ruger Am Ranch vs Ruger Am Predator?

Okay, so the boy wants a Ruger rifle for xmas in .223 for varmints,whistle pigs, fall turkey and just general plinking. I have a Ranch rifle in .450 Bushmaster I just love so he was leaning toward the Ranch rifle in .223 with the 16" bbl as opposed to the Predator rifle with an 18 inch bbl. He's set on the Ruger and I'm not in disagreement. Yes, they're plastic and ugly but my .450 shoots lights out as does most Ruger American's I've heard about so unless some deal of the century with a Model 700 or other "high end" rifle makes its self available, Ruger it is. Is there any significant bullet performance difference between a 16 and 18 bbl? Keep in mind this will be a general purpose hunting/target shooting rifle, not a bench rest competition rifle or solely dedicated chuck gun.

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Ruger American Predator $299:


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I'd vote the predator, you'll gain a bit of velocity an the barrel should heat less quickly on the range with the heavier profile.

I haven't owned a predator but all the reviews love them an not just the "experts" in the magazines.
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I'd go with the Ruger American compact rifle in .243. I don't know how tall or the length of pull your boy is but the Ruger American compact is a 12.5 inch length of pull made specially for small framed people. The 243 will do everything the 223 will and ammo cost are about the same. Good luck with your choice.
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I'd go with the Ruger American compact rifle in .243. I don't know how tall or the length of pull your boy is but the Ruger American compact is a 12.5 inch length of pull made specially for small framed people. The 243 will do everything the 223 will and ammo cost are about the same. Good luck with your choice.

I already have a .243. He hunts deer with a 7mm-08. He wants a varmint rifle and ammo for the 5.56/.223 can be found relatively cheap, which means he can afford to shoot it a bunch at the range. I was just curious if there would be and discernible difference between the two models.
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For a varmint rifle I would recommend the longer barrel.


Just an FYI. Years ago we cut down a 30/06 760 barrel an inch at a time and chrongraped it. We started at 24 inches and went down to 16 inches. We lost about 20 fps for each inch until we got below 18 inches. Then it went up to about 40 fps. We were using Remington 180 gr. CoreLoks. Now the burn rate of the powder used in the rounds has a whole lot to do with the velocity and with a different powder we may have gotten better numbers. Based on this one example it seems that 18 inches is a better choice.
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Just a FYI I have Ruger compact in 223 and it shoots VERY well .I was amazed at how well it shoots for a short barreled rifled , the small size would be great for a younger hunter
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Thanks all.

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Picked his rifle up last night. He's been saving money for a scope. I like that the newer models accept AR mags. I'm not real crazy about the Ruger mag in my ranch rifle. Doesn't seem all that well made. This one comes with a 10 shot mag. I'm going to grab him a 5 shot mag for it as well.
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The rifle was a hit. He had been squirreling away money and was able to get himself a Bushnell AR223 4-18 on sale, a bipod and some ammo. The two shots were taken after I zeroed it with 55 gr vmax bullets (The pic is sideways. Those shots are actually on the left side). I let him shoot up around 40 rounds of cheap hardball ammo. Pretty good shooting rifle and one happy kid.
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