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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 10-29-2018, 08:38 PM Thread Starter
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45 70 cal

How good of all around gun would this be for deer on the northeast compared to the 30 06? I like hunting potter Co area to roam the mountains and will get back to Maine tracking in the snow. Any input is apreciated.
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It'll kill deer for sure. Some might consider it over-kill. Excellent "brush" gun though. Certainly not great in the long range department. Recoil and cost of ammo could be a problem. Should be great for Maine.
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Another gun with ballistics that are close is the 450 Bushmaster. Check out the Ruger American Ranch in that caliber. It is lightweight, short, and it comes with a factory muzzlebreak that makes recoil very light.

https://ruger.com/products/americanR...ets/16950.html

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I like the marlin lever guns never used one in 45-70 but have killed deer with them in 30-30,45 long colt ,and 444.The 45-70 should work well.I reload the 45 long colt with modern lever rifle data it works great.

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Recoil and cost of ammo could be a problem.
Remington "Green Box" can be had at Walmart. More $$ than some. But not horrible.

LOTS to be said for a 405 grain bullet...……….even at Trapdoor velocities of 1500-1700 fps. Recoil with trapdoor spec ammo is not hateful in the least. I'd not feel under-gunned with a .45-70 and Trapdoor spec ammo for woods whitetail or black bear. Not at ALL.
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My Marlin 1895 45-70 is one of favorite deer/bear rifles. Fun to carry, shoots sub MOA, and knocks critters down. I shoot Leverevolution 325 grain and with this ammo it's a 200 yd gun.
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Another gun with ballistics that are close is the 450 Bushmaster. Check out the Ruger American Ranch in that caliber. It is lightweight, short, and it comes with a factory muzzlebreak that makes recoil very light.

https://ruger.com/products/americanR...ets/16950.html
What? What? oh, yeah, it is kinda loud with that break!
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What? What? oh, yeah, it is kinda loud with that break!

Brother you ain't kidding! I bought one as a retirement gift for myself this summer. When I sighted it in, I was wearing good rubber ear plugs but shooting under roofed benches. My ears rang continuously for a week then on and off if I got around loud noise for three more weeks. Dang thing really shoots though.

To the OP, if what you're looking for is a small, light rifle with a big bore because you plan on covering some ground, the Ruger American Ranch rifle is great. 5.5 pounds empty and its 34" long over all. The .450 bushmaster is similar to a .45/70. If you're set on a 45/70, I had a Marlin guide Gun in .45/70. Its also compact and lighter than most rifles. I shot one deer with it. I took it through the rib cage, a couple inches behind the shoulder.. There was a crater in the ground where the bullet came out and there was blood five feet up the side of trees the whole length of the 30 yards it ran. I've never seen a blood trail like that before. I can only imagine what it would have looked like if there was snow on the ground. Thumb size hole in and a thumb size hole out, both lungs were complete jelly.

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Yeah, I had a ported .450 Marlin guide gun at one time. Sold it to buddy a few years ago. I forgot to put ear protection in one time when shooting and it was not pleasant. It was also a good shooter.

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It is labeled as a "T-Rex" killer/gun.I have one.It will kill anything in north america and some in africa.Don't really need anything that big BUT they are fun.

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