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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 12-18-2017, 11:16 PM Thread Starter
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.257 Weatherby

I think Ive finally decided on what I want for a new deer rifle, the .257. I was initially disappointed that they did not offer a 26 barrel in the Vanguard as I simply am not in the market for a Mark V. The only other 26 offering that I could find was a Remington CDL.

But then I found out that, new for 2018, Weatherby is bow producing all the magnum calibers in the Vanguard series with 26 barrels. Bingo.

So who has one? What kind of accuracy with what different brands of premium ammo? What optics?
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post #2 of 27 (permalink) Old 12-18-2017, 11:48 PM
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Mine is one of the original vanguard sub-moa ones. It wears a 4-16 vortex currently and had a 4.5-14 nikon before. I only ever shot one box of factory ammo out of it and it shot just ok if I remember. I first tried to work up a load with 110 accubonds with 4350 and it was again just mediocre. 117 gamekings and slower burning powders really made a difference. The last long range group I shot was quite a few years ago but it put 3 in about a 2.5 inch group at 450 yards. It shoots flat and recoil isn't bad. The only reason I haven't shot it much in a while is I got a few othe rifles to play with. I do wish mine had the 26 inch barrel. I have have 50-60 loaded rounds left and then I plan to test some new loads. It is hard if not near impossible to match factory weatherby ammo velocity. Factory ammo and brass is expensive but it is a great cartridge.
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26 inch Vanguard? that'll work. But practically it probably makes no difference. The 257 is long range capable so I would have an optic that tops out around 14-16X. But depends on if you ever have any longer range hunting possibilities. You can shoot a loooong way with a 3-9 for big game.
Hard to beat wby factory ammo velocity, mine shoots well with the 120 partitions.
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Not a .257, but I have a Vanguard in 300 Weatherby Magnum. Bought it in the year 2000 and still love it. Solid gun and a good shooter. Mine has a 24 inch barrel but still gets great velocity. Not sure if you reload, but most of my data was developed in 24 inch barrels. Like, a 150 grain Barnes Triple Shock at 3540 fps. I think you'd be fine with a 24 inch tube and it might handle a little better.
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Not a .257, but I have a Vanguard in 300 Weatherby Magnum. Bought it in the year 2000 and still love it. Solid gun and a good shooter. Mine has a 24 inch barrel but still gets great velocity. Not sure if you reload, but most of my data was developed in 24 inch barrels. Like, a 150 grain Barnes Triple Shock at 3540 fps. I think you'd be fine with a 24 inch tube and it might handle a little better.
Im used to a big, long gun. Im 64 and carry my .300 RUM with a 26 barrel the majority of the time. The velocity gains from a 26 barrel arent earth shattering, but I still prefer it anyway. I like to get as much as I can out of it.
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I don't use mine anymore but in late 80's built a custom : Blueprinted 700, 24" # 3 Hart 10 twist , in a Mcmillian stock. Not to cut you short, no need for a 26" barrel around here. In a long action that 26" pipe is a pita if carring in our woods. For years and still I like 25 calibers. Its very hard hitting and some say it has a distint sound going off. I only used 100 grainers out of it my favorite was the 100 grain Nosler solid base but they discontinued it. I use the Bt and sierra bt. Don't be overwhelmed buying Whby. brass, its very strong and you will get several loadings from it. Alos don't be afraid to put some powder in it. Since some of the newer powders I haven't played with it but IMR 4831 worked good then I went to 7828. If I was tinkering with it now I would probably try some h-1000. Congrats on a fine caliber selection.
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The velocity gains from a 26 barrel arent earth shattering, but I still prefer it anyway. I like to get as much as I can out of it.
Since a lot of the reloading manual recipes were tested in a 24 inch barrel, you'll probably get another 50 fps over the published loads with the slower powders. A bonus.
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I would also take a look at the new .25 Cal 110gr Hornady ELD-X if you plan on shooting far. I've had great accuracy from the 212gr version in my .300 Win Mag.

My grandfather had an old vanguard in 25-06 that shoots around an inch with green boxes and an old tasco scope, I keep saying I'm going to get a better scope and handload for it but I never get around to it. It is a nice rifle though and my dad has killed several deer with it.
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I have a 257 WM Vanguard....non 26" barrel.....really like it. Fast, very accurate and hard hitting. Two thumbs up.
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post #10 of 27 (permalink) Old 12-19-2017, 04:42 PM Thread Starter
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Can someone tell me the difference between the Mark V action and the Vanguard? Ive heard that the Mark V can handle pressures up to 100,000 psi but was curious as to what else is different.
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