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Less recoil than a .30 .30?

My son, who is just starting out hunting, complained about the recoil of the model 94 he was practicing with. I made sure he was seating it in his shoulder properly, but still, he couldn't do it after even a few shots. Do you think a recoil pad would be the answer? Another rifle? I have a .243 but it is long (7600) and although I've never had issue killing deer with it, I've heard that the .243 caliber is more reliant on accuracy to kill deer with. In other words, you have to be a better shot and maybe it isn't something for beginning shooters, even tho the recoil is light. Anybody shoot a 6.5 Creedmore? Is the recoil light? Is it enough to kill deer without having to be a sniper?

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I think the 30-30 problem is the length being short. Let him try the .243.
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I bought my son a 7MM-08. You can get a heavier factory bullet than the .243. He has killed 2 deer with it. A doe that dropped in her tracks and a buck that ran maybe 30 yds. A lot of my buddies were going to get their boys .243's but once they had their kids shoot my sons rifle they went the same route. I bought a cheaper Savage Axis and I am happy with it.
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.243 are great deer guns. Just need to buy good bullets. 95g silver ballistic tips.
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My son started with youth model 7 in .243 when he was 7.We killed about 10 deer with it his first two years but I wasn't overly impressed with the terminal performance.It's still a good choice for a kid.When he turned 9,I loaded some 125gr accubonds in the .308 and he's been using that ever since with no recoil issue.It's tough to say without knowing his age or size.If he's a smaller kid,You can get an inexpensive compact rifle that would probably serve him a lot better than a 30/30.
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You may find the attached short narrative and accompanying recoil tables helpful.

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Not sure about the sniper part as everyone must hit a deer in the heart or lungs regardless of caliber.
My son at 12 killed with a 222 Rem and a 52gr. bullet.
Here is a recoil chart to help but ANY centerfire WILL kill deer.

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A .243 is more potent on deer than a 30-30. The story that .243 is too small for deer is a myth. If I were you I would try a recoil pad and some reduced recoil ammo. I think both Remington and Hornady make reduced recoil loads, I think he will notice a big improvement.
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As Marcus above stated a .222 is a great starter for a kid. I still use one as my main rig for the past 27 years. No recoil and your son will not flinch and that will give him the accuracy and confidence he is looking for. That little 50 gr pill inside 100yards anywhere in the Pumphouse makes meat just like a 30-06. I promise you this, no matter what anyone else leads you to believe.
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