I've used them out of my mod 14. They group for garbage. I bought 4 boxes when ammo was non-existent. I burnt through them just to get the brass to reload, load 5 rounds and unload from the hip(yeah, I know I need a bullet puller). My handloads and factory loads will group 1-2" at 100yrds, if I do my part. The Leverevolution is in the neighborhood of 6" plus. Still minute of deer, but I feel better with the good stuff.
Remember, shoot straight and shoot often.
Good... Bad... I'm the guy with the gun.