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Remington Model 700 - USA Today article

For those of you that attacked my recap of the Dateline NBC documentary on the Remington Model 700 - please read the attached story.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...ger-cnbc_N.htm

Your opinions are your opinions...my point is to simply bring the POTENTIAL problem to light for someone out there who owns a Remington Model 700 and is perhaps unaware of this POTENTIAL issue.


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Re: Remington Model 700 - USA Today article

popping popcorn...

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Re: Remington Model 700 - USA Today article

So the newer rifles with the X-mark pro are Ok, is that true?
Because I just bought this gun brand new....

http://www.remington.com/products/fi...l-700-xcr.aspx
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Re: Remington Model 700 - USA Today article

Let's get this straight: It's not about opinions.

IT is about the same CNBC "expose" being posted over and over and over again, as if it was aired yesterday. That show aired in October. The USA article is just a continuation of events.

It was essentially just another rehash of previous media coverage of the exact same issue, that has aired, been written about and yapped about for the past 20+ years.

Primarily in the same media that overtly delights in casting firearms and firearms owners in the least positive light.

Yes, it is a serious issue that people using older M700s need to know about.

By now, it should not be news to anyone that uses Remington firearms? Except those who were not born yet when it first appeared on the radar; Have been in solitary confinement since the 80s, or don't pay much attention to much of anything?

I'll sticky your link to the USA story, just for those people who missed the other half dozen go-rounds here in the past several years. Then it dies.

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Re: Remington Model 700 - USA Today article

My opinion is the same as it's been since this was first posted here on HPA

Anyone with a Remington 700 that they feel is UN - safe
please contact me immediately - I will give scrap price for as many as you can bring me.

Bottom line - and if read your article

small amounts of rust, debris, or even a small jolt can cause the trigger connector to become misaligned, forcing the trigger itself to lose contact with the rest of the firing mechanism

don't try to blame the manufacture for someone not taking care of a firearm.

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Re: Remington Model 700 - USA Today article

By most expert accounts, there were inherent problems with the original (Walker) M700 trigger assembly. Much of which has been amplified by the issues you mentioned.

I have read discussions on this over the years, by gunsmiths, gunwriters and other knowledgeable folks, who agree that the original triggers can cause problems, under the right (wrong) circumstances.

I have been around M700s since the 1970s and have never known anyone with such a problem, including those I own myself. My huntin' bud owned over a dozen M700s, most of which had those triggers. No problems and all had been "tinkered" with years ago.

Things can happen with mechanical devices. What has always bothered me about the reports, is that in almost every case, injuries or deaths are more attributable to the shooter not exercising appropriate gun handling.

If you are not pointing the firearm at something or someone and it goes off unexpecedly, all that generally results is a bad scare. I've never trusted anyone's safety and never point a firearm where it ought not to be pointed. So if one ever does go off, the worst that should happen is me gettin' damp skivvies?

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Re: Remington Model 700 - USA Today article

While hunting in Wyoming in 1983, I stood next to a hunting partner as he was loading his 700. The rifle fired when the bolt was closed on a live round. Muzzle was pointed away and into the ground.

Could not make it do it again. But, you always wonder about it from then on.
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Re: Remington Model 700 - USA Today article

Took the saftey off mine one year after a buck appeared right next to me and it went off. luckly no one else around and deer looked in the direction of the shot while I racked another and took his heart out. Never did it again and I still have it. I always make sure where I'm pointing it when there's around in the chamber.

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Re: Remington Model 700 - USA Today article

well if u don't like the remmies, don't buy em. duh? and the "potentail issue" prob. started with a home trigger job, ya know the fools who think they needs a 2 oz. trigger on a deer rifle.

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Re: Remington Model 700 - USA Today article

In my opinion, the trigger has some problems, not to the extent of the media.

Yes, rules of safe gun handling would have saved those lives.

Most of the lawsuits, were the result of accidentially hitting the trigger. Just like the sudden car accelerations result mostly from victoms hitting the gas not the brake.

It does worry me that Remington dodges the question by using the phrase "attributes all the incidents to improper maintenance". What is proper maintenance?? Has Remington explained what they think proper maintenance is??

Yes I have 7 model 700s the oldest from about 1962. would I buy another, absolutely.
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