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i was looking back over deer kills and something became very obvious to me..for some reason or another my 25-06 has without a doubt produced more drop them on the spot kills than my other calibers..And i simply can't explain it..all have been shoulder shots...here is a rundown 30-06 approx 12deer 2 DRT...7mm rem mag 15 deer 4 DRT...300 win mag 8 deer 0 DRT...25-06 10 deer 8 DTR...i should note that no deer went far.. some only a few yards..and i have shot a few deer with other cal..but not enough to make valid comparison...note again all shoulder shots. so it's not an issue of bullet placement.. and all but one less than 150 yds.. my two favorite cal are the 300 mag and the 25-06...but for deer and shoulder shots..the 25-06 seems to put them down quicker overall...Why?...not knocking the other cal just my experience...you would think the opposite if you read the ballistic charts
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High shoulder shots that are closer to the spine will have them dropping where they stand compared to shoulder shots that are a few inches lower. It is cool that you take those shots and remember/record the results but unless each deer was hit exactly in the same spot with each caliber few results will be the same.

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Actual shoulder shots are variable. bone breakage/deflection.

I take double lung shots, so cartridge to cartridge comparison are fair. my book lists 105 whitetails killed, but with 14 different cartridges, from 243 to 338. all were one shot kills with little over 40-60 yards drain outs. The 150 grain 30-40 had the best record.
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Shot placement is the factor here. While I'm generally good at following blood trails from years of killing deer with a bow I prefer my rifle shot deer to collapse when I squeeze! I AIM to do that every time I can(sometimes I don't have that shot or the distance requires I make my target bigger). Most of my rifle shot deer are DRT because I loke to take out the 'critical junction' at the base of the neck. There have been some high shoulders too. I have exactly one deer that was DRT from a shot behind the shoulders....I still can't figure out why, but that's how it happened.

You really under estimated the ramifications of the boondoggle you have just perpetrated!
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Oh, those were all with various calibers too. Some 257 bob, 30-30, 35, 308, 7mmRM, 50cal front stuffer.

You really under estimated the ramifications of the boondoggle you have just perpetrated!
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As my 25 caliber mentor told me in the late 80"s the 25 sends [ lighting bolts } kind of hard to argue with if ya own one! I never turned back to the 7mm's or 30's since than.
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35 rem 200 grain corelokts - 8 shots, 8 deer DRT. all hit either in the neck/shoulder junction or the front shoulder. never had one take a step. some didn't even kick. i've hit several right through the boiler room with various cals and they all ran. i've also got a lot with various cals that dropped on the spot, but the best performance has always been with the 35. my dad always used one and always used 200 grain corelokts with the same results. one year he couldn't find them and used the 150's. the deer ran several hundred yards and needed several finishing shots. i always try for the front shoulder with any gun because i used the front end for jerky meat anyway.
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I had 1 deer out of 15 move after being hit with a 30/30. I have had a few go 25 steps or less with my .300 Win and only 2 drop right away with an 06. Had 2 go 100 or less yards with a .22-250 and 2 down. Guess it depends on the deer and of course shot placement!

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You have to define shoulder shot.A shot through both shoulders hits no heavy bone and goes threw both a lungs.A high shoulder shot threw the shoulder blades drops deer on the spot because it breaks their spine,which dips down berween the shoulder blades.Other than the spine,there are no vitals behind the shoulder blades.

I've killed close to 20 deer with a .35 rem and have been on hand when at leat twice that many have been killed.The only ones that I ever saw drop on the spot where hit in the neck or spine.
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