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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 09-20-2016, 09:44 AM Thread Starter
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Having trouble keeping my scope from moving in the rings. Shooting a 338 win mag with Leupold mounts and rings. How many of you use thread lock on the screws ?
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Re: Scope Rings

I do on a .338. I also clamp down on that scope. You aren't supposed too on account of torqueing the scope but the .338 will move it otherwise!

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Re: Scope Rings

have used the blue threadlock(med strength) on 300 winnies & other recoilers. Use on bases & rings.Does a good job.
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Re: Scope Rings

+1 locktite, I've always seen it as a must for magnums. I've used clear nail polish with similar results.

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Re: Scope Rings

You can start to compress a scope tube by over-torquing and that will compromise either the tracking or ability to hold zero.

If it's moving, my money would be on the rings needing to be lapped. That improves the surface area of the rings in contact with the tube, which will do far more for you than cranking down the screws on the rings or putting thread-lock on them.

The only way locking the screws will help is if the screws are backing out/losing torque/coming loose under recoil. I would bet they aren't unless you've got like 5-10 inch-lbs on them, which is VERY little torque.

I would bet you a dollar that locking those screws and cranking the snot out of them isn't your fix. I'd be lapping those rings and getting as close to full contact as possible, and then trying again. And I'd bet at that point, your problem is solved. Out of the box, rings often don't have nearly as much surface contact as one would think.


My 300H&H is not heavy and is shooting 180's fairly fast. It kicks like a ticked off mule (especially since it's an old Winchester with a steel buttplate...yikes!), no scope movement. No loctite.

35 Whelen shooting 250's at 2500+. No movement. No Loctite.

300WSM, light rifle. No loctite. No movement.

264WM, 140's at ludicrous speed, bordering on "going plad" (see if anyone gets the movie reference, lol)....no loctite, no movement.
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Re: Scope Rings

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You can start to compress a scope tube by over-torquing and that will compromise either the tracking or ability to hold zero.

If it's moving, my money would be on the rings needing to be lapped. That improves the surface area of the rings in contact with the tube, which will do far more for you than cranking down the screws on the rings or putting thread-lock on them.

The only way locking the screws will help is if the screws are backing out/losing torque/coming loose under recoil. I would bet they aren't unless you've got like 5-10 inch-lbs on them, which is VERY little torque.

I would bet you a dollar that locking those screws and cranking the snot out of them isn't your fix. I'd be lapping those rings and getting as close to full contact as possible, and then trying again. And I'd bet at that point, your problem is solved. Out of the box, rings often don't have nearly as much surface contact as one would think.


My 300H&H is not heavy and is shooting 180's fairly fast. It kicks like a ticked off mule (especially since it's an old Winchester with a steel buttplate...yikes!), no scope movement. No loctite.

35 Whelen shooting 250's at 2500+. No movement. No Loctite.

300WSM, light rifle. No loctite. No movement.

264WM, 140's at ludicrous speed, bordering on "going plad" (see if anyone gets the movie reference, lol)....no loctite, no movement.
Sir weve never been to ludicrous speed!! Haha great movie, i dont use locktite either, lap and torque per what the ring manufacturer recommends
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Re: Scope Rings

Burris XTR rings or XTR signature rings, problem solved. No locktite needed. I also have a set of signature z rings on a 300 RUM improved and have no trouble
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Re: Scope Rings

Try "Lapping" the scope rings,ask a gunsmith to do it or do it yourself. If you check out YouTube,you can see how to do it. Guaranteed that will fix the problem...

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Re: Scope Rings

I once bent a scope tube by over torqueing on it.

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Re: Scope Rings

You just wouldn't believe how out of round and misaligned scope rings are until you lap one in ? It takes very little to damage a scope with creases in the tube.

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