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Question on selling long gun.

What are the laws/ rules for selling a long gun to an individual. A friend wants to buy a gun from me that I just picked up at auction. When I buy a gun there is a background check. I don't know if this is just a check to buy a gun or if it registers the gun to an individual.
Will a gun shop do the transfer if it is not purchased at the shop? Is there another way.

I picked up the rifle because it was a good price but already have one and have no need to have an extra of the same gun.
Is there a problem because I bought it and going to sell it in a short period of time. If we do the paper work will this be ok or will it fall under the straw purchase because it seems I picked it up for another person.
I am researching in other places just would like to get some input and maybe pointed in the right direction to look this stuff up. Thanks in advance. Waugh!

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Re: Question on selling long gun.

If hes a pa resident you dont need to go to a gun store or anything like that. When i sell a rifle I usually do a bill of sale with bother persons dl number and address, so if something happens im covered. Also rifles and shotguns aren't registered to a person only handguns, has always been my understanding.
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Re: Question on selling long gun.

unless you are in the business of selling, there should be no problem. However, if investigated, a BATF agent would make lots of mileage on why buy a gun if you already have one, UNLESS you intended to peddle it off or it was a straw purchase. Even though there is no requirement to go through a dealer, you may want to consider that. Solves the straw purchase potential and keeps you out of trouble if the buyer turns out to have a problem having a gun. Just talked with a guy this week who pled guilty to stalking and of course he says his lawyer never told him that such a conviction would prevent him from possessing firearms.

Don't know how well you know the buyer. Could he have been committed without your knowledge? Might he have a domestic assault conviction lurking in his past? You could be drawn in if you do not at least run a check on him yourself.
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Re: Question on selling long gun.

You can sell it to him without any paperwork or background checks. At least until January 20th when Hillary takes office.

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Re: Question on selling long gun.

I've sold several long guns over the past couple of years. I also do a bill of sale. Years back it was just a written scrap of paper now I use one that I found on-line and printed. It has questions similar to the old yellow form we used to fill out. Buyer signs that he's good plus D/L number, address and phone. He gets one copy - I keep one copy.

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Re: Question on selling long gun.

Thank you. Waugh!

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Re: Question on selling long gun.

Thank you.
I was thinking along the same lines. I was thinking I missed some new registration law where the serial number was in my name until reassigned.

Would it have been a straw purchase if I did buy one at auction for someone? I have picked up things I knew people were looking for at sales, just never a gun. If I had only bought this gun and marked the paperwork to say yes when asked if it was purchased for someone else would this been ok?
I don't know his legal background. I am going to a dealer just to do it because I had to do it and he should have no problems. He has guns and some new ones he just purchased from a dealer. I seen some of the paperwork in his case when we went to the range a few weeks ago to shoot his new pistol.
Thank you for the quick reply.

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Re: Question on selling long gun.

Yes. Buying a gun for someone else unless it is a family member is a straw purchase.

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Re: Question on selling long gun.

As long as he is not prohibited from owning a firearm and is a PA resident, a background check is not needed. As you know, you can though.
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Re: Question on selling long gun.

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As long as he is not prohibited from owning a firearm and is a PA resident, a background check is not needed. As you know, you can though.

True; as long as both buyer and seller reside in the same state and the transfer is for a long gun (not pistol).

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