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.243 or 7mm-08?

Pretty sure I'm going to purchase a Ruger American Compact for my 9yr old daughter. Now my question is .243 or 7mm-08? Was considering getting managed recoil ammo in 7mm-08. She isn't a tiny framed girl. She took her first turkey a few weeks back shooting a 20ga Mossberg 510 Mini now I'd like to get her a deer.

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Re: .243 or 7mm-08?

I just moved my 10 year old up from a 223 to 708 but I handload and use a reduced load with no problems. I would go with the 708 but with the reduced recoil load. A full load in the compact gun may be a little too much.The 120gr sierra bullet going 2500fps is a deadly combo on deer.
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Re: .243 or 7mm-08?

Agree on the '08, not a fan of the .243 for deer and I know a load of guys n here disagree. With the '08 she can grow into full power loads and enjoy her rifle all her life.

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Re: .243 or 7mm-08?

I'm 6" and 250# and not very fragile and my 243's are my favorite deer killers.

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Re: .243 or 7mm-08?

Got the American in .308 for my little gal. Reduced loads and away we go. When she grows up and we put full power .308 loads in it.............. then we GOT something.

Between the two choices you list.......... 7-08. NO QUESTION.

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Re: .243 or 7mm-08?

My dad and I both have .243's and he has a 7-08 as well. I don't think either one is a bad choice. Both will reliably harvest deer and neither has significant recoil and can be easily handled by youth hunters.
That being said, in my experience, we get more bang/flops with my dad's 7-08. He shoots 162 grain hornady interlocks at 2550 fps. I have never seen a deer take a step from that load. Sure you can get bang/flops from a .243 as well.

Either one you choose won't be wrong. If it were me, I'd go 7-08 and work up to full loads as she gets older. Even with full loads, it isn't bad. She may be able to handle them now.
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Re: .243 or 7mm-08?

I agree....I like the 7-08...

I shot my buddies for him and I was very tempted to buy one....still am lol..


It was just a joy to shoot...

I didn't shoot anything other than paper...but on paper i know I'd be happier with it than a 243 for deer...


Not bashing the 243...we all know its a capable cartridge...
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Re: .243 or 7mm-08?

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Pretty sure I'm going to purchase a Ruger American Compact for my 9yr old daughter. Now my question is .243 or 7mm-08? Was considering getting managed recoil ammo in 7mm-08. She isn't a tiny framed girl. She took her first turkey a few weeks back shooting a 20ga Mossberg 510 Mini now I'd like to get her a deer.
The Ruger compact is a pretty light gun @ about 6 lbs. So I'm gonna tell you that your daughter will experience 40-50 % more felt recoil with the 7mm-08 than the .243 which is significant in that light a rifle. And it will be louder if she is at all sensitive to the crack of a rifle. I have hunted with the .243 for over 50 years and it's never failed me on deer. I also have a 7mm-08 so I can make a comparison. I'm a big guy but I always shoot better with a lighter recoiling rifle.

The 7mm-08 managed recoil loads are difficult to find. If you reload, you could definitely do a reduced load for it and get .243-like recoil or less. But if you don't, I would go with the .243 without hesitation and especially with bullet options like the 80 Barnes TTSX or 85 gr TSX that are now available even in factory loads.

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Re: .243 or 7mm-08?

I have a .243 and a 7mm-08. Shot my share of deer with both. The 7mm-08 is pleasant to shoot but it has noticeably more recoil than my .243.
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Re: .243 or 7mm-08?

I bought my son a compact model 7 in .243 when he was 7.Between the two of us,we killed 8 deer the first two years he hunted.It worked,he shot it well but I wasn't overly impressed with the terminal performance.Last year when he turned 9,I moved him up to a Kimber Montanna in .308.I loaded him up some slighly reduced loads with 125 gr bt's to practice with and 125 accubonds to hunt with.Neither one of us felt the recoil was bad and the terminal performance was night and day compared to the .243.If you reload,I'd go with the 7mm-08 for sure.You can load down a 120gr bt and it will drop deer with authority.
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