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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 10-21-2010, 10:42 PM Thread Starter
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recoil question.

i am wondering if anyone has had experience with a ruger compact. if so what cals. my son is 7 1/2 yrs old about 70-75 lbs and wants to hunt. i have had him shooting a 410 for a little while and he handles it quite well. im thinking a 260 or 7mm-08 what do you guys think about these i want this to be a rifle he will use for years. i just like the bullet choices in these cals better than the 243. any help will be great thanks.

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 10-21-2010, 10:58 PM
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I would think he could handle either...somwhere in the 140 grain would do the trick..a nosler partition!
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Re: recoil question.

I would have your son work his way up to a deer-caliber rifle. For example, go from .22 to .22 mag to .223 to .243 to either the .260 or 7mm-08. Let him get used to each step up.

My son uses a 7mm-08 Youth Remington 700, but he didn't start using it until he was 12. I had a friend load up some 7mm-08 ammo with 100-grain bullets and less powder, which resulted in lower recoil than the normal 120- and 140-grain ammo you buy in stores. In general, the lighter the bullet, the lower the recoil. Remington also sells "Managed-Recoil" ammo for the .260 and 7mm-08, which is probably a good off-the-shelf choice.


Here is a table that compares recoil amongst calibers: http://www.accuratereloading.com/recoil.html
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post #4 of 14 (permalink) Old 10-22-2010, 02:20 PM
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Re: recoil question.

my 11 year old daughter is using a nef youth model shooting 95 gr ballistic tips. She's 60 lbs and handles it well. Not trying to change your mind in cals just as a thought. I use the same bullets in my own rifle and drops them in thier tracks.
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Re: recoil question.

The 260 is the better choice if you don't reload. The lighter bullets will kick less and still be superior to the 243; with the abiltiy to go to the 129 or 140 grains as he gets bigger and more experienced.
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Re: recoil question.

Any of the calibers .243 and up will work fine. Here's a link for reduced loads for a bunch of calibers, if you're a reloader.
http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/Youth%20Loads.pdf

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Re: recoil question.

Everyone should own a 243. Why not have it now when he's young. It will kill deer and chucks.. He is young unlike the old days when 12 year old started hunting. Later on you can get him a 7mm08 etc etc..Worst thing to do is make a kid start to flinch.. Takes years to stop that bad habit...
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Re: recoil question.

ive shot some managed recoil loads in my 06 and they kick like a 243
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post #9 of 14 (permalink) Old 10-25-2010, 12:29 AM
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Re: recoil question.

For what it's worth I went from a 22 to a 30-06. Not the best choice at the time, but it didn't kill me. I shot a deer with that 30-06 when I was 12.

I understand the stepping stones, but come on now. Most people don't have that king of asinal.

One thing that must be remembered is that everyone is different. Some kids have no problems with 12 gauge shotguns and 30-06's. Others have problems with anything over a 410 or 223.

The biggest factor I have ever noticed the the report of the shot being fired. Hearing protection will make a bigger difference than say 308 vs 30-06. Take away the noise, and it's nothing more than a bump on the shoulder.

One last thing. Stop worrying about it. Telling your kid it's going to kick their arse will make them flinch knowing ole man told me it would. Instead of telling them it will kick harder, tell them to hold the stock tight, take aim and squeeze.

The first time I shot a high powered rifle was my uncles 30-06 when I was around 9-10 years old. He didn't tell me it would hurt me. Just told me to hold tight and squeeze. I didn't have any problems other than the scope bite I got because I didn't hold tight. He took a couple more shots to calm me down, and I haven't had a problem since I realized the bite was my fault.

I notice that many people go from a gun with near zero recoil to gun with a lot. That is where some problem may accure. I will say a 20 gauge shotgun is a good way to start out. Just enough to know there is recoil, but not enough to hurt you. Take him out for squirrels, and the rest will be history.

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Re: recoil question.

The .260 is a perfect choice. Low recoil, EXCELLENT performance, and your young fella wont have any reason to feel under gunned down the road a ways.
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