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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 05-14-2014, 06:58 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, so I want a light weight, quick handling rifle built in in 35 whelen. This will be my new bear gun. It needs to be light because we put mile after mile on doing drives. It needs to be short and quick handling because of what we drive. Here's where I'm at: I have my grandfather's Czech mauser action rifle in .30/06 or I have one of two pre 64 model 70 Winnies (one standard .270, one featherweight .30/06) to use as a donor action. I've never owned a .35 whelen before. Is this a caliber that can perform well in a short barrel rifle? I don't need sub zero accuracy because after all, its going to be a hunting rifle. What do you guys suggest.

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post #2 of 35 (permalink) Old 05-14-2014, 07:26 PM
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What about a Rem 760 carbine in a '06 ? The whelen doesn't do much the '06 doesn't do, cept kick you harder. The parent case for the whelen is the '06. You could cut and recrown the '06 bbl where you want.
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I'd prefer a bolt rifle. I want the Whelen because I don't have one and I've always thought it was a pretty cool round. I shoot a .45/70 now so recoil really isn't an issue.

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You would be better off with a Marlin 45-70 1895 Guide gun model, short, light and accurate.




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The 35 Whelen is a sledgehammer. More so on a rifle shorter than 22". The 45-70 will knock down any animal on the continent within it's range. The 35 Whelen was designed as a large game stopper at longer distances than the 35 Rem. Its more at home with 300+yd shots on Elk, Bear, Moose, or Caribou and such. Suitable for whitetails, however damages more meat than the 30-06.

Considering your intentions, I'd flat out go for a 1895G in 45-70 or 450 Marlin, a 444 Marlin, or a 375 Win.

If your hearts set on a compact barrel in 35 Whelen, by all means go for it. However, the noise and recoil will make a 45-70 sound and feel like a 308 Win. IMHO

In terms of which donor, use the Mauser. I would never molest a pre64 M70.

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Sounds like a cool prodject, should make a perfect bear rifle. When shooting similiar weight bullets (220/225)the Whelen has a big advantage over the 30-06, plus you can step up in bullet weight. A shorter barrel will usually give you less velocity, but 18" too 20" should be no problem. Remington chambered their pump carbine in it, I think it had a 18" barrel. I am not sure where the other's are getting their info from? But; A Whelen does not have alot of recoil, slightly more then a 30-06 and less then the 45-70. A bolt action can be made as compact and light as a Marlin lever gun. Thats whats nice about custom, its as short and light as you want. And a 35 Whelen will not damage more meat then a 30-06.

There are a few inexpensive ways you could go with the rifles that you plan on using. You could get your existing barrel rebored or Midway sells pre threaded/chambered barrels for the Mauser. Or you could go for a full custom job.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/546547/...=ProductFinding

http://www.35caliber.com/

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It always amazes me on here when someone comes on and posts what they want to do and then people post why they should do something else...???

To the original question, I would use the Czech Mauser action simply because I consider it a sacrilige to disassemble and rebarrel a pre-64 model 70. If that's what you're going to do, then sell me one of them and you can buy whatever action you want.

I don't think you'll have any trouble finding a load for a 22 or even 20 inch barrel for that Whelen. Excellent bear round.
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I guess I should have mentioned I currently have a marlin GG in .45/70. I also have a couple .06's and .270's. I've never owned a custom built rifle before. I was leaning toward using Pap's Mauser for the build just because he was never able to afford a fancy or custom rifle but always appreciate them. It would give me a chance to have a little something of him along when I hunt. I'm going with the 35 whelen just because its always been something I wanted. I admit I don't know a whole lot about the caliber so I was curious how it handled out of a short barrel.

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I'm going with the 35 whelen just because its always been something I wanted.

There is no better reason to get a 35 Whelen then that!!! The pro's and con's of what is the best gun/cartridge can be debated forever, buy what you want. I have had freinds, family, and sales people question why I would buy a certain gun/cartridge over another many times. Simple answer was because its what I WANTED.

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Model 70's and Mauser actions really are not the best route to take when going light. But like Kudu said, if you use one use the Mauser. I don't think you could pick a better bear round.
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