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post #11 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-24-2019, 04:38 PM
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I don't actually carry anything like this for hunting, Just throwing it out as it is 100% a hand gun under state and federal law 7.5" barrel and the ATF has on multiple occasions sent out letters on how the "sig brace" is not a stock so it isn't a SBR rifle it is infact a pistol. I was only curious on the idea if the PGC was going to honor it's legal classification.
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I'm curious why this seems to be limited to archery season...? Would be nice to have it be provided to all seasons to carry a defensive firearm under an LTCF.
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I'm curious why this seems to be limited to archery season...? Would be nice to have it be provided to all seasons to carry a defensive firearm under an LTCF.
You may, so long as it is only used for self defense in seasons where a center fire may not be used, or it is a legal handgun for hunting whatever you are hunting.

2525. Possession of firearm for protection of self or others
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(a) General rule.--It is lawful for a law enforcement officer or any person who possesses a valid license to carry a firearm issued under 18 Pa.C.S. 6109 (relating to licenses) to be in possession of a loaded or unloaded firearm while engaged in any activity regulated by this title.

(b) Construction.--

(1) This section shall supersede any prohibition on the possession of a firearm or ammunition contained in any other provision of this title.

(2) This subsection shall not be construed to permit the hunting or harvesting of any wildlife with a firearm or ammunition not otherwise permitted by this title.

(c) Definitions.--As used in this section, the following words and phrases shall have the meanings given to them in this subsection:

"Firearm." As defined in 18 Pa.C.S. 6102 (relating to definitions).

"Law enforcement officer." As defined in 18 Pa.C.S. 6102 (relating to definitions).

(Nov. 29, 2006, P.L.1462, No.162, eff. 60 days)
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Ahhh, I see the section about it superseding other prohibitions.

There is a prohibition against possessing a handgun in turkey season in the digest. If I read the snippet of code you posted, WW, that should mean a handgun for self defense can be carried in spring turkey season, so long as its not used to harvest or attempt to harvest any animals...?
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A sporting is a firearm that s used for hunting, if you hunt with a .357 or .44 revolver it is your sporting arm. If a semi auto handgun was legal to hunt with in PA it would could be called a sporting arm when you are hunting with it. The key to your question hinges on two things, #1, is it a handgun, two, do you possess a valid license to carry a firearm? That is all there is to it, and it is legal for self defense only.
I said in my original post I've had a LTCF since 2015. I carry a semi auto 40 S & W handgun. which I can legally carry during archery season
for self defense.
It's states the only firearm you could carry is the one authorized by the permit.
Then goes on to say most sporting firearms are not authorized. Well which ones are and which ones aren't?


Just pointing out can anyone beyond me see a gray area here and it does sound confusing?
Just read the hole paragraph on page 23.
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I said in my original post I've had a LTCF since 2015. I carry a semi auto 40 S & W handgun. which I can legally carry during archery season
for self defense.
It's states the only firearm you could carry is the one authorized by the permit.
Then goes on to say most sporting firearms are not authorized. Well which ones are and which ones aren't?


Just pointing out can anyone beyond me see a gray area here and it does sound confusing?
Just read the hole paragraph on page 23.

Firearms meeting the criteria below are allowed:

TITLE 18:

CHAPTER 61SUBCHAPTER A

UNIFORM FIREARMS ACT

6102. Definitions.

Subject to additional definitions contained in subsequent provisions of this subchapter which are applicable to specific provisions of this subchapter, the following words and phrases, when used in this subchapter shall have, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise, the meanings given to them in this section:

"Firearm." Any pistol or revolver with a barrel length less than 15 inches, any shotgun with a barrel length less than 18 inches or any rifle with a barrel length less than 16 inches, or any pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun with an overall length of less than 26 inches. The barrel length of a firearm shall be determined by measuring from the muzzle of the barrel to the face of the closed action, bolt or cylinder, whichever is applicable.

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Ahhh, I see the section about it superseding other prohibitions.

There is a prohibition against possessing a handgun in turkey season in the digest. If I read the snippet of code you posted, WW, that should mean a handgun for self defense can be carried in spring turkey season, so long as its not used to harvest or attempt to harvest any animals...?
Yes that is does.

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Firearms meeting the criteria below are allowed:

TITLE 18:

CHAPTER 61SUBCHAPTER A

UNIFORM FIREARMS ACT

6102. Definitions.

Subject to additional definitions contained in subsequent provisions of this subchapter which are applicable to specific provisions of this subchapter, the following words and phrases, when used in this subchapter shall have, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise, the meanings given to them in this section:

"Firearm." Any pistol or revolver with a barrel length less than 15 inches, any shotgun with a barrel length less than 18 inches or any rifle with a barrel length less than 16 inches, or any pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun with an overall length of less than 26 inches. The barrel length of a firearm shall be determined by measuring from the muzzle of the barrel to the face of the closed action, bolt or cylinder, whichever is applicable.
I must have missed this in the Digest.

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My previous post "Firearms" definition (in bold) was from the actual Uniform Firearms Act (Title 18), not from the PGC Digest.

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My previous post "Firearms" definition (in bold) was from the actual Uniform Firearms Act (Title 18), not from the PGC Digest.
My Point exactly, Thanks for making it for me.

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