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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 01-28-2019, 09:39 AM Thread Starter
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Why don't they just correct it?

The current comic book say for the regular firearms season:
"Muzzle loading long guns of any type, 44 caliber or larger, or a muzzle loading handgun, 50 caliber or larger......"

This would include double barrel rifles, drillings, over under, swivel breech, etc.

Yet the regulations clearly limit the permissible firearms to:

(d) Regular and special firearms deer seasons.
(1) Permitted devices. It is lawful to hunt deer during the regular and special firearms deer seasons with any of the following devices:
(i)
(v) A muzzleloading firearm as permitted under subsection (b)(1) or (c)(1).

Both of those sections limit muzzle loaders to single barrel guns:

(b) Flintlock muzzleloading deer season.
(1) Permitted devices. It is lawful ..................and be a .44 caliber or larger single-barrel long gun or a .50 caliber or larger single-barrel handgun .....

(c) Muzzleloading deer season.
(1) Permitted devices. It is lawful ......The firearm must be a .44 caliber or larger single-barrel long gun or a .50 caliber or larger single-barrel handgun that propels single-projectile ammunition.


Then we have the question of whether a revolver rifle is legal in the early muzzle loader season Uberti sells a percussion six shot 45 caliber revolver rifle. The definition of muzzle loader was recently changed to accomodate firearms that load from the breech with loose powder.

Muzzleloading firearm—

(ii) The term includes breech-loading rifles and handguns that fire loose ammunition components comparable to a muzzleloading firearm.

The revolver carbine has one barrel, it only shoots a single 45 ball at a time and it is a long gun. Legal for the early season?

The CVA Kodiak double barrel rifle is not legal because it has two barrels, yet a six shot revolver rifle is legal?
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post #2 of 5 (permalink) Old 01-28-2019, 10:12 AM
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That is an interesting observation.

The cap and ball revolver rifle might be legal since it is single barrel and I didn,t see anything about single shot. It isn,t loaded at the muzzle or the breech, and it is gray at least.

On the other hand, it shouldn,t be legal during regular firearm season since it is not a center fire cartridge either.

It does use loose components, and as such could be legal in BOTH seasons. If you are serious I would call the regional office to get it clarified. The 50 cal flintlock pistol in SRA is sort of a similar situation. I called about that TWICE and both times was assured(after being on hold awhile) that it was fine in the after Christmas flintlock season.

Heaven has a gate, walls, and strict immigration policy.... enough said.
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There is absolutely no reason why a muzzle loader pistol is not permitted in the SRA's. If semi auto rifles of calibers measured in gauge can be used there is little reason to ban anything else.
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The Regional Office agreed too. Like I said, I carry it after Xmas.

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Another issue is what constitutes a long gun and what is a pistol? sounds like it ought to be simple right? What of muzzle loader pistols with shoulder stocks added. What of short barreled rifles with stocks that can be used either as a rifle or pistol?.

https://www.rockislandauction.com/de...-pistolcarbine



OK and another question, during the regular firearms season, can I use a 44 caliber cap and ball revolver to hunt deer?
Is it a muzzle loader, (it does not load from the muzzle does it?) or is it center fire?

Until about 1970, all USA made percussion caps were labeled "center fire" Winchester, Remmington and others.
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