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Floating Creeks

How do you guys handle floating creeks or rivers for trapping?Question is do you have to get permission from every land owner along the creek before you set?I have wanted to do a float trip for a long time and wasn't sure how to go about it the right way.
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Re: Floating Creeks

I do not know the law, but was always told that on rivers and large creeks so long as you stayed below the high water banks, you were good to go. These places were navigable waters and open to all.

But like I said, I am no lawyer or in law enforcement so I don't know chapter and verse, just what I was always told.

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No you must get permission from landowners for most waterways.... http://fishandboat.com/water/public/...lic_waters.htm Also there is this..Important note to anglers -- Many waters in Pennsylvania are privately owned, the listing or mapping of waters by the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission does not guarantee public access. Respect the privacy and rights of landowners - always obtain permission before entering any privately owned land. Approved Trout streams we are allowed to fish through the grace of L/O's, but even on those certain "posted" areas may not get stocked..

I f it worked I sent a PM to the OP.

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Re: Floating Creeks

look up navigable waterways for PA. There is a list that is established by law Which streams are owned by the Commonwealth. Small streams are generally private. But you may be surprised.
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Seems to be a differance of opinion...PFBC saying there is no list ....DNRC now having a map. Maybe DNRC only covers the portions (waterway) on State Park/Forest lands ?

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Re: Floating Creeks

I have a survey text on my desk written by Knud Hermansen that contains a list of navigable waters in the appendix. The list was compiled by the Department of Forests and Waters in 1916.
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I sent an E-mail to the PFBC yesturday(sent one to DNRC too if it worked) .....Here is the PFBC's answer(or lack of)reguarding the DNRC's map---Hi Martin,
Fish and Boat Commission does not determine which waters are navigable and therefore public. Only a court can decide. No agency, including the Fish and Boat Commission, is authorized to determine navigability by administrative action.---
There's more but it just tells me to look at PFBC's Site(I posted that earlier). I have not got an answer from DNRC(but I'll bet it directs me to the PFBC )
You may have a list,,, but if along the way the Deeds got reworded so that L/O "x" owns "the stream" the cops can charge you with tresspass and you must prove in court that "the stream" was once navigable. Which is what happened with the Lehigh river and the Little J. Both started as tresspass against claims back in the 80's

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i can assure you that list is valid. a private entity can not own those waters. think about it. an individual does not own portions of the Susquehanna or the Juniata, or the Monongahela, etc.
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