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Went to check my traps today and saw some fresh coyote tracks, it was actually two prints, one of top of the other off to the side a bit, it looked like it was coming and going if ya know what I mean. The tracks were 17 steps from a set I made, that I freshened up yesterday morning. Someone told me to make a Flat Set near that set. So the question is how do I make a Flat Set?

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I make a flat set with some coyote/fox droppings on a rock and sray it with fox urine. Place the trap about 12 inches in front of the rock with the prevailing wind blowing across the rock and over the trap. Then, I make two small hole, one at 3 o'clock and one at 9 o'clock on each side of the trap and put different lures like gland or food in each hole.





I used an existing surveyers flag in this case. This is the finished set.


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My flat sets usually have eye appeal. My favorite flat set objects are white rocks on a dark background or dark/black pieces of wood on a light background. My point is, my flat sets stick out, I want them to see it first and foremaost to pique their curiosity. If you rely exclusively on wind carrying the scent, what happens in swirling wind or uncommon wind directions? I always setup for predominate wind direction, however I have seen tracks to a caught animal that came to my sets from an odd direction that did not coincide with the wind. Eye appeal imo catches as many if not more coyotes than invisible sets that rely on scent alone.

Oh yeah, I use the turd set as mentioned above....alot, but I put the turd right on sign and it is visible. One of my favorite turd sets is to transplant any vegetation that sticks out from the rest of the native vegatation, then place the turd on that visible vegetation. I learned that from the coyotes themselves when they would leave a calling card/turd near one of my sets. On turds (and I always have a supply of them with me) I put a dab of coyote gland lure on them and a shot of urine if the turd isn't a fresh one.

The other thing I do alot is when I catch a coyote, I pick up all of the turds laying around. They are then used on a distant part of my line....miles away. I believe it infurates the residant dogs, they believe there has been a trespass crapper in their territory and they just have to get a nose full to try to determine who was tresspassing. Watch a domestic dog sometime, they can't pass another dog's turds without sticking their nose on it. Give them what they like, work with the animals traits and instincts, use their behavior against them. When I started trying to catch coyotes, I tried to make them do what I wanted them to do..... now I spend more time trying to understand what they will do. And nope, I don't have them figured out, but I enjoy the challenge of coyotes, they are fun to eff with. I learn so much every year from them. Rember, work with their instincts, their traits, their tendencies. Put your sets where they are spending time (sounds like you are).

One last thing, not sure if you'll be targetting cats this year or not, they are eye appeal addicts. Find cat sign and make gawdy ugly sets that stick out, wait 1 - to a few days and collect your cat. Good luck and stay confident, you'll get them hooked up!!!!!!!!
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Re: Flat Sets

Trapperrick. Do you ever have any problems with the leaves covering the trap interfering with the function of the trap?
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Trapperrick. Do you ever have any problems with the leaves covering the trap interfering with the function of the trap?
Leaves have not been a problem, small rocks that won't let the trap jaws close all the way, that's a problem......

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Trapperrick. Do you ever have any problems with the leaves covering the trap interfering with the function of the trap?
Leaves have not been a problem, small rocks that won't let the trap jaws close all the way, that's a problem......
I caught a fisher in this flat set today. The MB 450 held real well with no effect from the leaves.



Check out the cool catch circle! It was a hind foot catch and a real interesting release.


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@Moss,
How often are you "freshening" the sets? You may have used a little too much lure.
I feel that if you introduced a flashy flat set here you would have the coyote at the same distance away or spook it out.
I would put a well blended set in with an existing natural object for eye appeal, it can be just a larger clump of grass in that area.
A dribble of pee or maybe a hint of a gland lure is all I would use.

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Re: Flat Sets

This particular flat set with the blue surveyors flag was freshened once. I set it originally on November 9. Pulled it November 11, reset it on November 14, that's when I included fresh lure. The flag has been there for about 3 years, I'm sure any coyotes in the area would be used to it by now. With all of the drilling, logging and mining going on around here if yotes were afraid of change then we wouldn't have any left.

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