Skinned 2 grays last night, the leather side looked really good. Killed 2 the first week, they were pretty dark yet. Big coons have been good since 2nd week, when I started. As far as "worthless", consider this. Last year I sold 2 grays I killed the first night of the season, both were prety dark on the leather side, but both brought good money. Not top lot, of course, but good prices just the same. I'd have to look it up, but they were in the 20's. I try to harvest as many as I can, handle the fur well, and always get decent money. Wait if you want, but I don't. Coons are a different story, of course.