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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-30-2018, 10:13 AM Thread Starter
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15ft rule for bank dens

There was a comment on another thread about the 15' rule not applying for bank dens. The regs do say 15' from a beaver dam or house, nothing specific about a den.

Can anyone offer some clarification on this? i did not want to hijack the snare thread.

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-30-2018, 10:32 AM Thread Starter
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I called the PGC northwest office. They said that a bank den does qualify as a house or dam and that the 15' radius would apply. So, you do have to stay away from a bank den.
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I have had it explained to me by a game warden than you can set a bank den with a 330 if its under water. If the bank den has an air hole on land, that is covered with sticks and mud (thats how many bank dens I find are constructed), then you have to move 15ft.
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§ 2361. Unlawful acts concerning taking of furbearers.
(a) General prohibitions.--Except as otherwise provided in this title, it is unlawful for any person to:
(1) Take, kill, wound, capture or have in possession, or attempt, aid, abet, assist or conspire to take, kill, wound or capture, any furbearers except during the open furtaking season and in such numbers or by such methods as fixed by the commission or this title.
(2) Have in possession the green pelt, or any part thereof, of any furbearers taken except during the open season and for ten days thereafter without first securing a permit from an officer of the commission.
(3) Stake out or set traps for furbearers prior to the date and hour fixed as the open season for taking such animals.
(4) Stake out, set or tend, or attempt to stake out, set or tend, traps of any kind in an attempt to take, kill or capture any furbearers without first securing, possessing and displaying any licenses or permits required by this title.
(5) Buy or sell, or offer to buy or sell, or export from this Commonwealth any furbearer, or any part thereof, which has been unlawfully taken, possessed, killed, transported, imported, exported or improperly tagged regardless of where the furbearer was taken.
(6) Possess live furbearers taken from the wild without securing a permit from an officer of the commission.
(7) Set traps closer than five feet from any hole or den except in the case of an underwater set.
§ 141.62. Beaver and otter trapping.


(a) General. There shall be one durable identification tag attached to each trap or snare by means of an extension wire of sufficient length so that the name tag is completely above the water or ice level and totally visible for inspection purposes. The name tag shall visibly set forth the owner’s first and last name and legal home address, or a number issued by the Commission.
(b) Unlawful acts. It is unlawful to:
(1) Place, or make use of, materials or products except raw native wood or stone to direct the travel of beaver or otter. Man-made materials may be used only to support traps or snares. (2) Place, check, reset or tend a trap or snare on an established beaver dam or beaver house, or within 15 feet of either a dam or a house. Measurement shall be from directly above the trap or snare, across the water, ice or land to the nearest point of the structure


the way it was explayed to me was if it is a lodge it is surrounded by water,the 15ft rule applies. if it is not surrounded by water,ie 2 0r 3 sides on dry ground it is a bank den and can be set anywhere.


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§ 2361. Unlawful acts concerning taking of furbearers.
(a) General prohibitions.--Except as otherwise provided in this title, it is unlawful for any person to:
(1) Take, kill, wound, capture or have in possession, or attempt, aid, abet, assist or conspire to take, kill, wound or capture, any furbearers except during the open furtaking season and in such numbers or by such methods as fixed by the commission or this title.
(2) Have in possession the green pelt, or any part thereof, of any furbearers taken except during the open season and for ten days thereafter without first securing a permit from an officer of the commission.
(3) Stake out or set traps for furbearers prior to the date and hour fixed as the open season for taking such animals.
(4) Stake out, set or tend, or attempt to stake out, set or tend, traps of any kind in an attempt to take, kill or capture any furbearers without first securing, possessing and displaying any licenses or permits required by this title.
(5) Buy or sell, or offer to buy or sell, or export from this Commonwealth any furbearer, or any part thereof, which has been unlawfully taken, possessed, killed, transported, imported, exported or improperly tagged regardless of where the furbearer was taken.
(6) Possess live furbearers taken from the wild without securing a permit from an officer of the commission.
(7) Set traps closer than five feet from any hole or den except in the case of an underwater set.
§ 141.62. Beaver and otter trapping.


(a) General. There shall be one durable identification tag attached to each trap or snare by means of an extension wire of sufficient length so that the name tag is completely above the water or ice level and totally visible for inspection purposes. The name tag shall visibly set forth the owner’s first and last name and legal home address, or a number issued by the Commission.
(b) Unlawful acts. It is unlawful to:
(1) Place, or make use of, materials or products except raw native wood or stone to direct the travel of beaver or otter. Man-made materials may be used only to support traps or snares. (2) Place, check, reset or tend a trap or snare on an established beaver dam or beaver house, or within 15 feet of either a dam or a house. Measurement shall be from directly above the trap or snare, across the water, ice or land to the nearest point of the structure


the way it was explayed to me was if it is a lodge it is surrounded by water,the 15ft rule applies. if it is not surrounded by water,ie 2 0r 3 sides on dry ground it is a bank den and can be set anywhere.

i have a good relationship with the local wco , told him what you had said earlier .he said wrong !
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must be a interperation thing, what I said was from my wco!

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Beaver Pictures & Facts: Beaver Dens

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I was told if beavers pile any sticks,mud, or rocks up on anything, like a dam, lodge, or bank den air hole, then you must be 15 ft away. he said that bank dens that are underwater are fair game and you can set a 330 in it.
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must be a interperation thing, what I said was from my wco!
...and your WCO would be the one you would have to deal with, so it is good you spoke to him. I think how I would defend myself if I went before the magistrate. My opinion is that any layman would say "house" is a structure where the beaver inhabits, rests, seeks shelter, etc.... how could I convince a judge that 2 sides surrounded by land is not a beaver house, but all sides surrounded by water make it a house? That makes me nervous. In my opinion....
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That article is useful. Thanks. Its annoying that the. PA regulation uses the word "house"... it seems like it would have been clearer to use the words "lodge", or "den"...
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