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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 12-31-2010, 07:09 PM Thread Starter
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Failed Break-Away Device

I was Flinting with a friend last night on the same orchard mountain property my cable restraints are on. Around 5:00 I hear a coyote barking near my CR's. You could tell it was aggravated. It lasted maybe 1 minute.

I told my buddy and, on our way out, drove past my setups. I didn't see fur bouncing so we moved on.

This morning revealed a faild S-hook B.A.D. The struggle didn't last long. Vegetation is still intact. The brief struggle took place to the side of the setup and he left plenty of good looking grizzled guard hairs at the scene.

I guess the manufacturer didn't have the B.A.D. set at 285#'s because I can't see a coyote breaking out of one these things! I'm a little miffed to say the least!!

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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 12-31-2010, 08:02 PM
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Re: Failed Break-Away Device

oh man that stinks,,

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Re: Failed Break-Away Device

I correct myself.....

You cannot "set" my B.A.D. It is rated. I have both S and J-hooks rated at 285 lbs. I don't think one is better than the other if both are rated the same. I'm just struggling with the force it had to take to open the hook.

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Re: Failed Break-Away Device

First year Running CRs, First Fox Caught a Big Male Red Fox...when I did the tap and chop and grabbed hold of the CR, the B.A.D came right open...

That Fox was basically Seconds from popping that B.A.D!

They are S hooks on mine...Was supposed to have been a bad set of S hooks from what I was told and a few others had the same thing happen...

does anyone have a preferance between the S hooks and J hooks for B.A.Ds??
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Re: Failed Break-Away Device

You probably already know this but the new regulation has increased B.A.D.S. device ratings from 325 lbs. to 375 lbs.

I was told it was because what happened to you was happening to others with enough frequency to warrant the increase.

I was also told there was no actual testing of the weight rating. Everybody just takes the manufacturer's word for it.

Eh...wot?
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Re: Failed Break-Away Device

I would switch to release ferrules, I haven't had a problem with coyotes getting out of them and the deer can still break them. I use them from snareshop, but you also have to purchase a release ferrule crimper, like $26 for the crimper

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Re: Failed Break-Away Device

Thanks fellas,

I heard mention of the increase, but was unaware why. I will be pulling all of last years CR's and switching them out with Newts setup. I'll order a few S-hooks and J-hooks, for now, to replace the lower rated BADs. My Snare One setup is rated at 338 lbs. and should hold! I'll probably give the release ferrule a try next year!

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Re: Failed Break-Away Device

you can weld them shut. its been shown a coyote can exert #400+ of pressure on a trap chain.

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post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-03-2011, 04:15 PM
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Re: Failed Break-Away Device

I would be very, very leery of welding a BAD! Number one, there isn't much metal there... number two, welding them may put them above the maximum breaking strength and could result in a citation! jlh42581, we're talking about breakaway devices on cable restraints here.

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