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swivels... welded?

Does anyone think it necessary to weld the crunch proof j-hooks on my swivels closed? I'm in an area where I MAY get a coyote (more than likely not). If the consensus is to weld them, should I weld all the j-hooks closed (at the trap and at the stake swivel) Thoughts??

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Re: swivels... welded?

I never thought it possible, but I had a coyote straighten a crunchproof rivet last year and take my trap.
I welded about 1,000 rivets over the summer.


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Re: swivels... welded?

I personally don't do it, as I don't weld and don't have access to a welder. If I had both of the above, I would. Certainly won't hurt! While you're at it, put a bubble tip on all your trap jaws.

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Re: swivels... welded?

I did the bubble tip on the jaws as well Bob.
I really don't think that an animal could open a crunch proof when pulling straight on. I've locked them up in a bench vise and ripped and pulled on one of my trap chains with everything I have, yet it felt like I was pulling on a solid metal rod with no give at all.
I believe that if a J-hook or S-hook is going to fail, it's going to require a chain link to bind up somehow and work the rivet from an angle other than 180 degrees, where the rivet could be opened from the side.
I wasn't a welder until I saw a little Lincoln MIG/FC welder on clearance at Home Depot last year. I popped in the DVD, skipped through the safety section.......and learned how to weld in about a half hour. I couldn't believe how easy it was


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Re: swivels... welded?

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I really don't think that an animal could open a crunch proof when pulling straight on. I've locked them up in a bench vise and ripped and pulled on one of my trap chains with everything I have, yet it felt like I was pulling on a solid metal rod with no give at all.
I believe that if a J-hook or S-hook is going to fail, it's going to require a chain link to bind up somehow and work the rivet from an angle other than 180 degrees, where the rivet could be opened from the side.
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Re: swivels... welded?

I think it's a good idea because of J hooks can be open and traps stolen. They can't pull cable stakes but they can sure open J hooks.

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Re: swivels... welded?

never had any trouble with a new j hook opening up or weakening but open one up and use it over and then it becomes a different story.
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Re: swivels... welded?

thanks guys. that's kinda what i was thinking. as for the coyote that straightened the j-hook: it had to have gotten the chain bound up in such a way that the chain "helped" spread the hook open. unless it was a recycled hook, which i do not plan on doing. I'm new and this might be a stupid question but what do you mean by putting a bubble tip on the jaws?

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Re: swivels... welded?

Just a little bubble of weld on the tip of the jaw so that it won't pull back through the frame of the trap. Coyotes especially put a heck of a strain on a trap... without baseplates, bubbled jaw tips, or jaw tips turned up they can flex the base of the trap enough to have the jaws come out of the frame.

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Re: swivels... welded?

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as for the coyote that straightened the j-hook: it had to have gotten the chain bound up in such a way that the chain "helped" spread the hook open.
Seems I heard that somewhere before..........

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I really don't think that an animal could open a crunch proof when pulling straight on. I've locked them up in a bench vise and ripped and pulled on one of my trap chains with everything I have, yet it felt like I was pulling on a solid metal rod with no give at all.
I believe that if a J-hook or S-hook is going to fail, it's going to require a chain link to bind up somehow and work the rivet from an angle other than 180 degrees, where the rivet could be opened from the side.


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