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post #1 of 102 (permalink) Old 01-19-2020, 03:31 PM Thread Starter
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How long do you fellows reckon these will hold up?

Picture #1 = Eric Carns - Non Typical PA State Record - 2016 - 228 6/8's

Picture #2 = Ron Shaulis - Typical PA State Record - 2017 - 185 4/8's
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post #2 of 102 (permalink) Old 01-19-2020, 04:39 PM
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I would say Non Typical could hold quite awhile. The typical could be broken in any given year in the right area. After reading the story of #2 and only my opinion that deer should never been scored as a hunter killed deer. Should only have been entered as a pickup. And again that is only my opinion.
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As far as I’m concerned the typical is a pick up/ dead head. Shouldn’t be representing pa’s largest typical ever “killed”.
That non typical is crazy big! Very rarely do I hear/read about any big non typical’s being killed so I’m guessing the non typical will be on top for quite some time. They are both incredible bucks though!
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...After reading the story of #2 and only my opinion that deer should never been scored as a hunter killed deer. Should only have been entered as a pickup. And again that is only my opinion.

I totally agree that it should not be the Pa. record as it was essentially a pick up, but I don't think there's a pick up category in the Pa. records; B&C yes, but not Pa. State records.
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Things continue trending upward in this state and that means that either of those records could fall at any time. There are some absolute giants out there all across this state and it just takes one making a mistake...
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Number 2 is bogus
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What’s the story behind the typical one?
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What’s the story behind the typical one?
https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-storie...-co/689489070/

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A 230 nt is pretty rare anywhere, I'd think that one may stand for a while.

A 186+ typical, not nearly as rare, but still hard come by in pa. If I had to guess I think this one will be bested at some point, could be fairly soon.

As hunter numbers decline, the likelyhood of giant bucks increases. At least here in western pa, we have the genetics and soils to produce deer like the ones that routinely come from the ajoining counties in ohio.
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A 230 nt is pretty rare anywhere, I'd think that one may stand for a while.

A 186+ typical, not nearly as rare, but still hard come by in pa. If I had to guess I think this one will be bested at some point, could be fairly soon.

As hunter numbers decline, the likelyhood of giant bucks increases. At least here in western pa, we have the genetics and soils to produce deer like the ones that routinely come from the ajoining counties in ohio.
Absolutely. I’ve said often that I wish I could get my hands on 500+ acres here in western Pa and give me 5 years with it and I’ll prove that 150-160 class bucks could be harvested regularly, with 170+ not being out of the question. Those that claim that Pa can’t grow deer like they have in the Midwest are wrong and it’s been proven time and again. We don’t have a problem with genetics, we’ve had a problem with too many hunters not allowing bucks to reach maturity and grow those big antlers. Many of the biggest bucks ever taken in this state were from the 40s when there were very few hunters and mostly iron sighted rifles...
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