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Powder charge

I was taught that you should use the same amount of grains as the caliber of gun you are using. I have an older CVA .45 mountain rifle and have always stayed in the 45-50 grain range and it shoots ok. Is it safe to go up in the amount I am using? If so, how much?

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Re: Powder charge

Grain per caliber is a good starting point.
Years ago they put a RB in the palm of their hand and poured powder on top till the ball was covered.
Most 45's like 70grs of FFFg but not all.Go with a patch of .015 or .018.
Here is a chart that should help.

http://www.goexpowder.com/load-chart.html

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Re: Powder charge

That 45 grain load is a starting load and good for punching paper. Not what i would call a hunting load for deer. Like 410er said 70 gr is a good start for hunting. find a good patch , lube and ball combo that will shoot the heavier charges well for hunting.
I cannot say this enough roundballs perform much better on deer sized game when pushed by safe but heavier charges. As in better penetration , expansion and blood trails.
My 45 likes 75 grain of 3f .440 ball and 18 thous. patch. mink oil patch lube.
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Re: Powder charge

Ok great.

Now how do I go about finding a load. Start at 45, shoot 5 shoot group and work up three grains at a time? Or a ladder test?

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Re: Powder charge

Like the other 2 members said-start at 70 grains and go up till you see your groups open up and/or unburnt powder on the ground in front of the muzzle...

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Re: Powder charge

Also give a good cleaning between each group.

With shooting black powder I have found consistency is the key. Load the same way everytime, every step. Accuracy will differ with every rifle. You have so many variables. caliber, barrel length, powder type, powder charge, patch thickness, lube? Even the thickness of the front sight blade. It can get mind boggling. For just a hunting load then start at the caliber/grains and work up. I have no experiance in .45cal. The closest I've had is .50cal. I've found the short barrel ones to like a load around 60gr. Long barrels(40"+) I have found them to like a load around 90gr. This is with 3F Goex.
Best way to find out is to spend a day on the range with your rifle in the summer. Trying to find a good load last minute can be a pain. But I bet it will be 55-70gr 3F goex for most accurate load.

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Re: Powder charge

I go up by 5gr.I also run a wet patch followed by 2 dry every 3 shots.Go with the tightest groups.Don't be concerned with big charges.I have 2 TC Senecas 45's that like 50grs and they drop deer to 50yds.

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AND, make sure You write down the results, worst load, best load,type of Lube tried etc..etc. This is especially true if You have multiple Guns. I usta think I`ll remember that but.....
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Re: Powder charge

i looked at that link.. they listed for 50cal one charge in fff and then the rest of charges were ff ? why dont they have more for fff ? shouldnt u shoot over so much grains in fff ????? i am confused look at chart an see how many u see in the .50 cal chart
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