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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 12-19-2013, 02:58 AM Thread Starter
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help with black powder

hey guys im a newbie with the smoke pole and I love the traditional things so I got a T/C hawkens flintlock and I got hodgdons pyrodex rs for the main charge and 3f goex for the pan I was wondering will the 3f work for the pan cause I have a friend who keeps saying you want the finest you can get and he says you can crush it a little more in a medicine bowl but I know a little bit about black powder and really like my hands so I figured ill get opinions before I do anything and any info about the hawkens and charges and this will be helpful thanks guys

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post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old 12-19-2013, 03:39 AM
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Re: help with black powder

get away from pyrodex...goex 2f-3f down the pipe and 4f in pan
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Re: help with black powder

Ditto as above!!!!! Imitation powder needs much hotter ignition source.

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Re: help with black powder

The others are right...pyrodex and black powder substitutes MIGHT work...sometimes...but you will likely not get the performance and speed of real black powder...goes, swiss, schuetzen etc...

2 or 3f in the barrel...4fg if perfered in the pan though some use 3f and seem to do fine...


Can't help with grinding it...i can't speak for its safety...but I know a guy that does it...its pretty much powder...never used it...can't speak for if it works any better or not....
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Re: help with black powder

Answers here

http://www.cherrytreefamily.com/muzzledixon.htm

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Re: help with black powder

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Re: help with black powder

I use 100 grains of 2f triple 7 for the charge and 4f goex in the pan. You guys are saying I would get better performance if I switched to straight black powder? If so, how many grains?
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Here is the charts.

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Re: help with black powder

The above info is correct, i use ffg as the barrel charge and ffffg in pan. I tried tripple7 a few years back and expierienced terrible hangfires with it.

Flints were made for "real" black powder in my opinion, and thus this is all i use.
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Re: help with black powder

So what are the advertised advantages of substitutes like triple 7? Why do they exist?

I thought they were cleaner and caused less barrel fouling, I assume this is not the case?
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