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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 05-17-2018, 06:20 PM Thread Starter
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The old feud

nutts with it.

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post #2 of 35 (permalink) Old 05-17-2018, 07:05 PM
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so, rather than lose membership and stay with the tradition on which it was founded and risk competition from another organization the NMLRA gave in for the sake of dollars. kinda like the EPR's with the coolers, cell phones and other modern things out in sight and being used. sure would hate to offend anyone and lose their money! sad, really sad! another thing that tries to get swept under the rug, is the fact that we ARE NOT other parts of the country or another state. we are the ONLY state to offer a "flintlock only" season. again the Hxxx with tradition, I want what I want! again sad!!!!
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What is the purpose of this thread?

This has the potential to get out of hand, and it will get locked/removed if it does.
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some people can't leave things alone and stir up touble
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You're getting dangerously close to a removed thread.

What is your purpose here, CM?
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You're getting dangerously close to a removed thread.

What is your purpose here, CM?

I felt that there are many readers who may not understand how the inline/ traditional feud got started. The other thread didn't need to be clogged up with it.


I'll delete my response to black powder that I believed was appropriate....... and you of course can delete the thread too if you feel it needs to be deleted.
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CM, I do support their season 100%, I have no problem with it and hopefully after using an inline during that season it will spark some interest in moving up to a flintlock. I would gladly help and encourage anyone anytime along the way. but, we all know how things have a way of spilling over in this day and age, and there in lies the problem. a little at a time and before you know it a season that was begun as a tradition and a heritage opportunity gets stomped on. we see it every day and it only gets worse. its never enough.
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I felt that there are many readers who may not understand how the inline/ traditional feud got started. The other thread didn't need to be clogged up with it.


I'll delete my response to black powder that I believed was appropriate....... and you of course can delete the thread too if you feel it needs to be deleted.
Understood, and for now we're ok with the thread being here.

That can change depending on how things unfold. At the present time, I don't feel the thread needs to be removed.

For all--- this is a topic with a lot of potential to go south in a hurry. Please be respectful and post in a constructive way. If that can't be maintained, the thread will go bye-bye.
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The NMLRA has been faced with stagnant membership numbers and in an effort to lure new members has moved toward greater acceptance of inlines. Even having matches for them. Most in-line shooters are not interested in competition and have an unfortunate false sense of superiority over traditional muzzle loaders if they could be lured out to a match. In line pistols have had a place in NMLRA matches for decades. but very few rifle matches were open to in-lines. The NMLRA's move has upset many of the long time faithful.

Frankly, a few states have altered their seasons to exclude/discourage in-lines from their primitive weapons seasons. Requiring loose powder, side locks, open sights, etc.

Pennsylvania's Game Commission kept changing the rules to permit non-tradtional muzzleloaders from nearly the very first flint lock season. Plastic stocks, day glo sights, short barreled carbines. pistol grips, etc. They did a way with the round ball requirement a long time ago. They are in part to blame for the in-line fans failure to comprehend the concept of a primitive season. If I had my way, the first week of archery would be limited to traditional wooden bows and arrows. No fibre glass, carbon fibres or sights until the second week. Training wheel bows would not be permitted until the third week.
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Pennsylvania's Game Commission kept changing the rules to permit non-tradtional muzzleloaders from nearly the very first flint lock season. Plastic stocks, day glo sights, short barreled carbines. pistol grips, etc. They did a way with the round ball requirement a long time ago. They are in part to blame for the in-line fans failure to comprehend the concept of a primitive season. If I had my way, the first week of archery would be limited to traditional wooden bows and arrows. No fibre glass, carbon fibres or sights until the second week. Training wheel bows would not be permitted until the third week.
The reason I see for that is less to go against tradition and more to try and increase the participation with a lower cost entry. Let's face it, a decent traditional pa longrifle flintlock costs about $700 minimum compared to the $250 for a traditions PA pellet. If the person really enjoyed hunting with a flintlock then they will upgrade to a better one.

I see it in long range PRS shooting, the long time competitors are running $4500+ custom rifles with $2500+ scopes. To someone who has never shot long range but wants to try the sport those numbers are absurd. If that was all that was allowed then the sport would never grow. However these days you can pick up a cheap savage with a budget scope for under $1000 and be competitive enough to figure out if you like the sport, those that do move on to better rifles as funds permit.
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