I was giving my muzzleloader a thorough cleaning this year after the standard water flush and cleaning swabs. I've always ended up with clean patches. This time I decided to go with a foaming bore cleaner....treatment #4 And still getting some black patches out of it in certain areas down the bore....surprising. is that indicative of anything? The areas don't feel rough or anything.
I also see some mild pitting with rust dust I call it. Not in the rifling grooves but the flat spots. I know once there they are there. Do I need to get rid of it and really work the barrel? Or do best I can , oil up and accept. It is a shooter with rust nicks and scratches etc. Not a safe queen.
I'm far from an expert, but I have found the same thing with my flintlock. Soap and water only goes so far. IMO you need a good cleaning with solvents and brushes from time to time to get all the lube, lead, etc... out. I recently tried some of this stuff and it worked pretty good. http://www.rmcoxyoke.com/inc/sdetail...ttle/14233/425
Definitely a shooter ...tree bark and jagger scrapes for sure. I should continue to use the bore blaster to get all the stuff out? If it's still coming out here or there that's still not good?
You never mentioned what you used prior to protect that barrel.
JB Paste when used correctly and that's with oil, will remove those rusty trace amounts. Also, are you using a brass bore brush? If so, change to black nylon. I found the brass ones keep producing black patches, no matter if I use 189 patches or five.
That barrel (lands & grooves) needs to be completely dry when adding butter or oil to protect it. If bathing that barrel, you don;t need real hot water. Just warm tap water works just as well and won't flash-rust the bore like real hot water does.
Most everyone seems to think that the only way to remove old, crusty butter from the grooves and burnt, crusty powder from the bolster drum is real-hot water....... Not true!
So in starting from square-1, what protectant have you been using?
I have been cleaning with soapy warm water and clean water. Flush flush. Then using my traditions orange cleaner until clean and then a dry patch. Hair dryer to make sure its all dry.
Then a coating of light oil...rem oil or break free.all over and inside to keep rust at bay. I did the bore butter one year but then hear bad things about that holding moisture. Gun will be in a safe with dehumidifier in it.
Honestly, who sees inside your bore? If its a shooter, I'd clean it the best I could, then lube it up with break free or other such solvent when storing the gun to prevent rust ,and leave it alone. Do you really need a mirror bright bore? No. As long as the bore isn't horribly rusted out or pitted so bad that patches won't come out unless ripped to shreds I'd not be overly concerned about it.
I guess that's kind of my question...I mean I know rust is bad, so should I be really trying to get those dots out of there or oil over it and the oil keeps it at bay so to speak? Im still foam cleaning the barrel, and on on side of the patch im still getting some black so I think some of the grooves are not clean. I've rotated the barrel so the foam gets around.