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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 12-27-2015, 04:17 PM Thread Starter
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Questions about these Pa Pellet flinters

How reliable are they>
What pan powder should be used?
If pellets work in these, why won't they work in a regular flinter?
Why is a removable breech plug necessary on these but not on a regular flinter?
Any help with these questions would be appreciated.

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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 12-27-2015, 04:30 PM
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Re: Questions about these Pa Pellet flinters

Mine has been very reliable.

I use 4F in the pan.

I don't use pellets in my rifle, instead I use loose black powder. As for why pellets won't work in a regular flintlock, I'll let someone more knowledgeable answer that question.

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Re: Questions about these Pa Pellet flinters

Pellets might work....but not nearly as reliable as real granular black powder...


Removable breech plugs I don't know if they are needed...seems to be part of the design of the "pellet" flintlocks...probably just so the new technology crowd used to inlines can relate to them...

Pan powder...I've only ever used 4fg black powder...


Most commercial flintlock rifles have a "patent breech"...basically a smaller chamber for the powder..pellets likely don't fit into the patent breech...


The black powder substitutes burn at a higher temp and are harder to ignite...real black powder ignites lower/faster and is more reliable in any flintlock no matter if its pellet/bp substitute friendly.


My 2 cents...I've never fired a pellet/substitute friendly gun or ever tried anything other than real black powder in a flintlock...
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Re: Questions about these Pa Pellet flinters

Yup, substitutes ignite at hotter temps, 300-450 degrees hotter than old black. Breech plug on these are for that reason, plus as said before to cater to ease of cleaning like those inlines. As far as pan powder same as before. It would not hurt to put 5grain of ffff in front of pellets if you want to make sure the main charge goes off....

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Re: Questions about these Pa Pellet flinters

I agree with mouser, I use only black powder in ALL of my muzzleloaders, weather flitlock or inline, it has worked for 100s of years so why not.

But to answer your question, the flintlock "pellet" rifles have the breech plug and chamber designed to accommodate the use of pellets, the "chamber" is slightly oversized to accommodate the pellets becaisethey should not be crushed while loading, the touch hole is slightly larger and angled to ignite the pellets, if you notice, the pellets have a darker section towards the bottom, kinda like a ring of real black powder to encourage faster ignition.

The removeable breech is nothing more that a more than a way to clean the rifle more thoroughly. All of these things are not really necessary, flinters have been working for many years without this new technology added to them.

But these rifles DO work, it's just in all what you want.
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Re: Questions about these Pa Pellet flinters

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How reliable are they>
What pan powder should be used?
If pellets work in these, why won't they work in a regular flinter?
Why is a removable breech plug necessary on these but not on a regular flinter?
Any help with these questions would be appreciated.
I just happen to own one of these
they are very reliable once you get them to spark every time (takes some tweaking)
use only 4f in the pan and be sure to tap some into the touchhole
pellets do work and its because of the breech design .....also the reason the breech is removable its machined separate from the barrel
hope I answered all yer questions
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Re: Questions about these Pa Pellet flinters

How reliable?I would sooner buy a TC Hawken or Renegade.
Pan Powder?Either FFFFg or FFFg
Why removable breech plug?Because people don't want to put one end in a container of water and pump it with a ramrod.Easier (for some) to remove plug and let water run thru.
Pellets work but like others said subs take 800-900 degrees to ignite.Blackpowder Ignites at 300-350 degrees.

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Re: Questions about these Pa Pellet flinters

Thanks to all who answered. Now I have a much better working knowledge of them

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Re: Questions about these Pa Pellet flinters

Their lock design is a upgrade of the Deerhunter.A friend shoots his soley with pellets with no issues.
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Re: Questions about these Pa Pellet flinters

I have a PA pellet that I have used the past 2-3 years. I use the pellets and a jacketed sabot, 4F in the pan with a little bumped into the flash hole, and a 3/4" english flint and I have never had a misfire either in the field or on the bench. The delay is actually almost non-existent. As others have mentioned the breech plug is convenient for cleaning purposes but not sure if it has any mechanical purpose. In my opinion if you take the time to get everything set up correctly, they are very reliable flinters.

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