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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 12-07-2014, 01:59 PM Thread Starter
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Need advice for beginner

First off thanks for looking and thanks in advance for any input you put in. I am new to the whole muzzleloader season and want to try it out. I have been looking at different models and companies and cant figure out what to buy to be a good and accurate first gun. I am interested in the Traditions Deerhunter or the Traditions PA Pellet. But what is the difference in them, besides the pa pellet will shoot pellets and also loose powder and the accelerator breech plug. Also if you think there is a better gun in that price range(trying to stay around the $350 range).
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 12-07-2014, 02:07 PM
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Check Grises out. Go in and look them over. The guys there can help you out and the prices aren't bad.

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is $150 dollars for a "rarely shot" Traditions deerhunter a good deal. I just found one local online and the ad says shot only 5 times
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It is not whether it was shot, a gun shot some doesn't cut patches like a new barrel will. The important thing is whether it was cleaned properly. Could look real nice, and have a barrel rusted up enough to make the gun a good tomato stake! Look at the bore well. It could look shiny, but have pitting. You want smooth metal in the lands and grooves. Pitting means it has been rusted.

Additionally, if you are looking at either of the mentioned Traditions rifles in a flintlock, I would recommend real black powder, and not Pyrodex or 777 pellets or other substitutes. Substitutes are more designed for inlines, and are finicky with flint ignition. To the point that some people who use them, juice them with 5-10gr. black powder down the barrel first.

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Look at a Lyman Deerstalker or Trade rifle.
Use real black powder,(2F-3F in barrel and 4F in pan)stay away from pellet,just my 2 cents.

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I'd go with Lyman or Thompson Center in a flinter.If you go cheap you will just get frustrated with problems.

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I third the Lyman or T/C opinion, though I have been told that T/C is soon to be exiting the flint market. Excellent rifles from both manufacturers. Traditions rifles are ok, but I have had better luck with the other two, just my opinion.

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you can get a factory reconditioned lyman deerstalker from their website for $280 shipped.
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Look at a Lyman Deerstalker or Trade rifle.
Use real black powder,(2F-3F in barrel and 4F in pan)stay away from pellet,just my 2 cents.
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I had a lyman deer stalker that shot very well and now have a lyman great plains that I love. Fun to shoot and shoots very well. I'm adding a peep for this season just to help tighten my groups and be a little more precise when hunting
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